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Should We Send Troops To The Ukrain?
Just listening to Tobias Elwood, the threat of war in Europe is very real this morning
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bobbi: 10:20, Putin is worried that Ukraine will join Nato and/or the EUSSR. That just adds more direct abutting to NATO countries. Although Russia already borders NATO I think they see this as an eastward expansion to far. He's also worried that they are becoming more and more westernised in their attitudes and culture. Russia has discarded communism but...
10:26 Mon 14th Feb 2022
yes we'd have to honour our commitment but I don't think they will, not on the ground anyway. Biden is making noises to the effect of non military responses. I work in a bank and we can all pull the plug in minutes, freeze assets, shut down Swift, block trades from Russian interests etc etc. NATO may use air power the US for example have just flown four of B52s to Fairford.
bobbi: 10:20, Putin is worried that Ukraine will join Nato and/or the EUSSR. That just adds more direct abutting to NATO countries. Although Russia already borders NATO I think they see this as an eastward expansion to far. He's also worried that they are becoming more and more westernised in their attitudes and culture. Russia has discarded communism but not it's authoritarian/anti democracy attitudes where as Ukraine has embraced western elections, democracy etc. I think Putin is terrified of a mass public uprising in Russia towards western values and wants to nip it in the bud. Well that's my assessment anyway.
The crisis is fundamentally nothing to do with Ukraine’s possible membership of NATO.
That’s just a pretext.
Today or tomorrow Ukraine will probably announce that it will not “seek NATO membership”. This is a sensible move as realistically there is no prospect of it happening in the foreseeable future anyway.
Ukrainian military intelligence assessment of the situation is that Russia could not mount a proper “full” invasion of the country as things stand, while there is a more realistic prospect of incursions or provocations in the eastern and SW regions.
The original question has already been answered above.
I predict, perhaps foolishly, that the current military crisis will soon ease.
But you can be sure that this will not be the end if it. As Peter says, Ukraine is not a military threat to Russia. But it’s aspirations to be a free and prosperous nation on Russia’s doorstep (a much larger version of Estonia) very much are.
That’s just a pretext.
Today or tomorrow Ukraine will probably announce that it will not “seek NATO membership”. This is a sensible move as realistically there is no prospect of it happening in the foreseeable future anyway.
Ukrainian military intelligence assessment of the situation is that Russia could not mount a proper “full” invasion of the country as things stand, while there is a more realistic prospect of incursions or provocations in the eastern and SW regions.
The original question has already been answered above.
I predict, perhaps foolishly, that the current military crisis will soon ease.
But you can be sure that this will not be the end if it. As Peter says, Ukraine is not a military threat to Russia. But it’s aspirations to be a free and prosperous nation on Russia’s doorstep (a much larger version of Estonia) very much are.
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