Hamas Pride Visa Row

[fender62]

already playing the race, people like her make my blood boil, you can bet she would like nothing more then to make britain an islamic country..

/said that before coming to Britain she believed 'freedom of expression is a fundamental human right that's cherished here'.

She now feels that this right does 'not apply to ethnic minorities, particularly Muslims and Palestinians like myself'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13426429/Palestinian-student-pride-Hamas-attacks-visa-revoked-national-security.html

[douglas9401]

She can use that drive and passion to rebuild her homeland.

[davebro3]

Actions have consequences - you'd think a final year law student would know that. Kick her out.

[ToraToraTora]

Yep stick a daisy up her April. End of.

[bednobs]

if she is 19, how on earth can she be in her final year, unless it's a levels?

If she is in her final year then wont the academic year be over now anyway and it'll be time for the visa to be rescinded/re-applied for?

[naomi24]

I wonder how she intends to use her qualification?  I would happily wave her goodbye.

[sandyRoe]

Clearly a young woman of passionate convictions.  She'd make a good human rights lawyer.

[naomi24]

Human Rights - exactly what I thought - but good for whom?

[Old_Geezer]

Judging from recent events, it seems minority groups are overly tolerated on what they say & do here in the west, and in the UK probably more so. It isn't supposed to be a free-for-all to do anything, or to incite as you wish. (Nor is it tolerable to arrive knowing there are freedoms here unavailable in the nation that you or your ancestors left, and decide to fight to change here to be similar to the culture you got away from. That's a lack of gratitude and a lack of respect.)

 

Besides getting involved in this country inconveniencing citizens here by protesting at actions in your native country, is inappropriate, since this country doesn't have control over what others do elsewhere. Protest at your native country or simply discuss with friends while here. Or write to your MP if you wish.

 

National security seems a good reason to remove terrorist supporters, which, by her comments reported in the DM, she appears to admit to. One suspects the appropriate investigation was made by authorities before any decision was made. If not we'll see the whistle-blower evidence in due course.

[Old_Geezer]

One wonders if she is merely stating what her solicitor has said may be useful to say.

[JJ109]

Bednobs - I sat my university finals at age 19. 20 just, when I graduated. I went to university a year earlier than normal. Downside of this was that at the time I couldn't get a student rail card in my first year as I was too young! You had to be 18!

[Spungle]

Perhaps a gap year to Rwanda is in order?

[youngmafbog]

Stick her on a plane now.

Whats the betting she gets legal aid to fight this HR rowlocks?

[Peter Pedant]

Straightforward application of the law - visa revoked because she supported a terrorist organisation

Daily Mule has dressed it up as God knows what..

I am an external at that very university ! she would be end of first year. There has been a case on conflict of Human Rights and support for banned organisatiions....

the judges said, no conflict: banned organisations stay banned: next!

[andy-hughes]

This is yet another example of freedom of speech not entitling you (falsely) to shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre.

Active and visible support of a proscribed organisation in another country is only going to lead to conflict with that country's authorities, and usually, authorities win, because they have power on their side.

That does not mean necessarily that the authorities are right, but it does mean that you need to exercise caution when you are a guest in another country, and should be concentrating on abiding by their rules in order to remain.

It's no use flaunting free speech privelidges and then moaning when they get you into trouble.

[naomi24]

//Active and visible support of a proscribed organisation in another country//

 

Hamas is proscribed in this country.

 

[Peter Pedant]

blimey - there is a first PP agrees with two mods on a straightforward law point

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // 

//Active and visible support of a proscribed organisation in another country//

 

Hamas is proscribed in this country. //

Apologies, I did not make myself clear - I meant 'another country' as in the UK, the country the lady is living in, possibly temporarily, for the duration of her studies, as opposed to her country of origin.

[andy-hughes]

PP - // blimey - there is a first PP agrees with two mods on a straightforward law point //

Naomi and I are posting as AB'ers, our Moderator status has nothing to do with it.

Perhaps you need to lose your obsession with the moderation on the site, it's affecting your ability to think straight.

[Khandro]

She'll probably still be in the UK to finish her degree courtesy of immigration lawyers.

But good news; meanwhile over the Channel they are not so accomodating;

'Police have shot dead a man believed to have used a petrol bomb in an arson attack on a synagogue in Rouen in northern France, according to Gérald Darmanin, the interior minister.

Officers intervened when smoke was spotted in the vicinity of the city’s synagogue at about 6.45am.

A police source said the officers were threatened by a man armed with a knife and an iron bar. One responded by shooting him dead.

Darmanin said: “In Rouen, national police officers neutralised an armed individual manifestly wanting to set fire to the city’s synagogue early this morning. I congratulate them for their prompt reaction and courage.”

The Times today.

[naomi24]

Well done that policeman.  Dead is the best place for him.