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Hi all Thank you for replies, so funny, you couldn't make them up could you, my mum in llaw is 88 now, and comes out with these things all the time, bless her, she is so funny, sometimes she realises, then says, what did I just say, and starts to laugh herself, take care all and thanks again, what puddicat said is so true, last year when we went to work in a house the woman said she hated her neighbour because she was always casting nastursions.(spelling) at her I never twigged for a few minutes,as I knew exactly what she meant, so we all do it, not just mum in laws, eh, cheers all xx