Once a cheater and always a cheater and A Leopard never changes his spots

[Crazylegs]

I reckon this is bull, has anyone heard of or been with a cheater that cheated only once and never again?
Or maybe with a spouse beater that has raised their hand but never done it twice? Just for the record I am against spousal abuse and cheating but refuse to believe that everyone that is involved in this will *re offend again* Agree? Disagree?

[ummmm]

No...I know someone who hit his Mrs a few times but he was going through emotional turmoil. He didn't do it again.

[CuteToni]

I think that there's a great deal of difference in 'cheating' when a teenager and when in a serious relationship when older. Who didn't have a lot of boyfriends/girlfriends when growing up but when your older it doesnt tend to happen. People can change. Wife beaters ? Not so sure any violent person is ever fully changed .

[Crazylegs]

So once violent always violent cutetoni? Experience or a guess?

[boxtops]

As ummm says, there can be pressures - not excusable but remove the pressures and the person can change. I would be cautious though. Male or female, it isn't acceptable to beat up your partner under any circumstances.

[grasscarp]

How would you really know because a careful cheat is not found out. Somebody once warned me about somebody who had hit me, that once he had crossed that "boundary" and hit a woman he could do it again. I got out of the relationship. My husband has never hit me in 36 years, but he did push me once!

[Crazylegs]

But don't many spousebeaters blame their heinous crimes on pressure boxtops?

[ummmm]

His Mum died when his wife was pregnant with his first child. It sent him a bit dolally. His wife left after the second time he hit her. He dealt with it then....

[ummmm]

I do think pressure plays a major part in spusebeating. Unless the beater is just a bully...!

[cazzz1975]

spouse beater, maybe he was smacking her for misbehaving?

[Crazylegs]

I think that everyone can change, maybe the reason for change could be realization, the stop of drink and drugs , a help course, a new child or maybe a new belief in god. Agree?

[bobjugs12]

I'm sorry, but I do think the statement depends on the victim/partner as much as the assailant/cheat

[ummmm]

I think it depends on the individual person. My friend was with him for 4 years before he hit her....so it was out of character.

[Crazylegs]

Cazzz spouse means male or female and what a horrid thing to say.There maybe women reading this that have been through abuse so It's not exactly a fun thing to mae light out of.

[boxtops]

Some crazylegs, but some are just not in control of their own emotions and actions. Losing self-control due to frustration or aggravation is not a pretty sight.

[cazzz1975]

no need for the soap box crazylegs....

[Crazylegs]

And whys that cazzz? Not an important subject in your opinion?

[joeluke]

I've never been in a relationship where I haven't cheated, a man who cheats and then promises to never do it again is a liar

[cazzz1975]

you dont mind smacking kids but you dont like an adult hitting another adult....

I was just getting things into context thats all ;)

[ummmm]

Do your partners heat on you Joe?

[jackthehat]

^ I fluffing well would..........;o)