Shouldn't This Woman Just Be Strung Up?

[eyethenkyew]

She deliberately killed her autistic son (murder) by forcing him to drink bleach, and has wriggled out of a murder charge by claiming insanity(diminished responsibility). Charge reduced to manslaughter (Slapped wrist?).

Let's just bring back capital punishment, and save hard pressed taxpayers the swingeing costs of trials. I'm all for it. Particularly in this "time of austerity". Aren't you?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/...gland-london-11758290

[B00]

No

She needs help, I hope she gets some too.

[eyethenkyew]

Help??? What about her dead son? He doesn't deserve justice?

Far too many do gooders willing to condone serious acts like this - hope to God it never happens to them! Tunes would be changed rapidly.

[smurfchops]

Plenty of people out there should be strung up, it would make the world a better place.

[pastafreak]

The woman is obviously ill....'stringing her up' is not the solution.

[barney4444]

If I understand what you say correctly, you are proposing sentencing someone to death without even a trial.. surely even you must concede that is a little harsh !!

[fredpuli47]

Insanity isn't quite the same, as a plea, as diminished responsibility, eyethenkyew. It's not wise to plead insanity. If established it's likely to end in detention in a (possibly secure) mental institution and without any set limit ! 'Diminished' was introduced as a defence to murder about 50 years ago. She couldn't be charged with infanticide because the child was too old, though it may be that you don't agree with infanticide either and think that any woman who kills her child should be convicted of murder and executed.

This sounds a sensible course that counsel and the CPS have taken.

One feature of capital punishment is that we never executed every murderer when we had it. Even in the 1930s, when we executed most, the murderer was spared execution in certainly a third of cases. But we didn't have 'diminished' in those days and whether there was an execution was the decision of the Home Secretary who would recommend leniency (or not)

[askyourgran]

The poor woman was probably at the end of her tether. There was no mention of any of her immediate family (husband, siblings) helping her.

[NOX]

No of course not, for the love of god have some compassion will you? This woman has clearly tried for 12 years to do her best and instead of feeling that Social Services would help her, she clearly feared them and doubtless thought that they would take her child into care. This is nothing short of a tragedy for all concerned not least the poor boy himself but she will have to live with her decision for the rest of her life and a moment of terror and paranoia does not equal murder, it equals diminished responsibility which is exactly what was found. I hope she gets the help she needs.

[jackthehat]

How dare you all be so even handed and compassionate............?

Where are the righteous indignation and jerking-knees more appropriate for threads like these ?

I despair, I really do..........

[pastafreak]

None of us can know the burden she may have carried,nor the personal hell she may have been living in. As has been said-we have heard no mention of family or friends-she may have been alone - or at least have felt she was. We have no idea if she had any support,or if she may have been alienated by her family.
Part of being human is to show compassion.

[Authentic]

The UK is a compassionate country, but still throws oddities up like eyethenkyew.

[carmalee]

I'm with Pasta freak on this - until you've walked a few miles in somebody's shoes you have no right to judge.

[sandyRoe]

Think back a few months to the woman, the mother of a handicapped child, who was being tortured by yobs in the street where she lived. She eventually killed her child and then herself.
We can't know the pain that some people endure in their lives.

[B00]

I'm normally one of the first to at least think "yeah, string em up" even if i don't often post it, but not in this case im afraid.

All I felt, when reading this story was really sorry for her.

She obviously did her best for 12 years, doing what must be a horrendous task, seeing someone you love and gave birth to never having a normal life and never going to either. She felt, rightly or wrongly, that she was getting no help and was at the end of her endurance.

I feel terribly sorry for her, her guilt must be a horrible burden for her to bear. So yes, I do hope she gets help.

[DTCwordfan]

Texas tried to 'string up' (injection) a woman for Murder 1 who drowned her 5 kids back in 2001/2...... Major post natal depression completely ignored.

Thank god it eventually got overthrown when sanity took over the appeal court. She is now getting psychiatric help and that's what this woman needs......

Do we have another Child Services/Baby P incident on our hands to swamp the papers?

[jno]

the punishment for manslaughter is a slapped wrist? I think not.

It's an appalling story. The woman sounds mentally ill. I can't see how anything would be improved by stringing her up - with or without a trial.

[modeller]

I remember going to a house where their 10yr son was lying on his back in a play pen and propelling himself around and around and screaming non stop . The mother told me he had done this from birth 24 hours a day . Once a year he was taken into care for one week to give the family a break . The neighbours on either side had changed more than 20 times because they couldn't stand the noise. I was only in the house for an hour and I felt like screaming myself .
How that women coped I do not know I would have snapped years ago.
If that women had killed her son would you # string her up # ?

[cazzz1975]

as a parent of 2 children with autism, the lack of real help is non existant, im guessing she was very much alone in dealing with this and it can be a very stressful situation, the story made me cry because I could never imagine doing that knowing how vulnerable these children are. most parents with autistic children live a very stressful life, forever worrying about the future and the day to day problems. its very easy to get in to a cycle of depression.

[eyethenkyew]

With such a bunch of bleeding hearts as are on here, no wonder murderers flourish in our midst. It was no different earlier in the year when that nutter Raoul Moat went on the rampage - we had the lily livered soft soap pinkos painting him a hero.

Why is it always the perpetrators in this country who get the sympathy? Their victims, like this helpless lad, can go burn in the fires of Hades as far as some of you gutless apologists are concerned. Disgraceful examples that you are.

[B00]

Oh shaddap eye.