Mark, please relay this message to "Jan1957" and to the administrator for my sincerest apology to what I've done on the board. She was right and thanking her for that. I got carried away seeing people crying for help. This is my first time to be joining everyone in pain who seeks help regarding their own back pain problems. And since I knew everyone's problem, the solution and reasons, that is my purpose of being here. Again, thank you very much. Sidney