Why?????

[bobjugs12]

How come it;s acceptable for my ex girlfriend to shout obscenites across a bar about my children and my ability as a father?!?!?!?
Why was I the one removed in case I reacted, instead of her?

PS My ex is not the mother of the kids

[KaiHallarn111]

Probably cause they presumed that you would do a lot of damage to her if you reacted.

Your right though, its not acceptable

[bobjugs12]

Realistically, i would have if a) i could have got to her (4 blokes holding me back) and b) she were a bloke!!

[jno]

if you had people holding you back, then the publican had every right to chuck you out; I would have too. And I'd have let her stay, despite her unsavoury talk, for fear you'd be waiting with a brick for her outside.

[bobjugs12]

JNO, it wasn;t a regular pub. It was a NAAFI bar.
The 4 people holding me back was because she tried to attack me earlier by kicking and punching. You know me from my other posts and you know what sort of a bloke I am. I would never raise a hand against a women. But it was deemed ok for her to do all this!

[bobjugs12]

God, i'm fuming!!

[bobjugs12]

Sorry about this. It was a combination of anger and booze

[ummmm]

Are you Ok now? x

Like jno says.....it's easier to remove the bloke and probably a lot safer. Doesn't make it right though.

[bobjugs12]

Nope. Just had a bollocking for kicking off in the bar

[ummmm]

Another one? From who?

[bobjugs12]

ummm, one of my bosses
RH, yeah i'm RAF. I just hate the ypocrisy of the whole situation. If she'd been a bloke screaming about my kids and i'd lamped him(her), then everyone would have patted me on the back and said he deserved it. But 'cos she's a girl I'm instamtly the bad guy

[jake-the-peg]

they presumed that you would do a lot of damage to her if you reacted

Realistically, i would have if a) i could have got to her

I would never raise a hand against a women.

You seem a tad confused

Without any judgement here or even thinking about rights or wrongs there is a simple fact.

If people can't take provocation and drink without becoming violent there are only 3 options.

1/ Don't get into any situation where you may be provoked
2/ Don't drink
3/ Get used to prison food

I'd say reading between the lines that you had quite a lucky escape - It would be a shame if you didn't learn from it

[ummmm]

Jake....he also said combination of anger and booze when he was posting last night.

[jake-the-peg]

Yup - nasty combination - unfortunately "I was drunk" is not a generally accepted defense against an assault charge.

see option 2 above.

I'm not judging here - life's unfair, but it still sounds like a lucky escape and it would be a tragedy to see Bob posting in Law in two weeks time don't you think?

[bobjugs12]

Jake, i see what your saying.
Slightly confused posting last night.
Basically what I was trying to get across was the fact that she had shouted these things about my children and i'm the one who got gripped.

[mccfluff]

i would of chucked her out!

[jno]

I sympathise with you, and if she tried to attack you physically earlier on, she should have been removed then. (Any idea why she wasn't?) But I stick to what I say about removing you later on: if you look like you had to be held back then even in a Naafi bar a publican is well within his rights chucking you out, regardless of anything that might have happened previously.

There's no answer to this really except never even look as if you're going to be violent in a bar. No harm in having a quiet word with them - when you're stone cold sober - and making the point that you're entitled to drink without being attacked, by anyone of either sex.

[ummmm]

I took it from his morning post (apology) that the booze and his anger made him word it badly.

Going from his other posts on here....he was typing out of character.

[bobjugs12]

A bit of history guys so you can understand where i'm coming from. I split from my ex wife a few years back, after a marriage that involved a lot of one-sided violence (her on me). The most I ever did to my wife was restrain her. I've never raised a fist in anger to a woman.
Even during the worst of our arguments my ex-wife never questioned my ability as a father.

Now this jumped up little troll (my ex-gf) hsouted these things about me being a dad, and about my kids across the bar. I reacted wrongly, and in a way that is totally out of order, so I understand the need fo someone to have had a word with me. But she got away from the incident scot free!