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cheers, you know, you just get the feeling he is soo trying to get me, my wife or anyone of our family to give him a slap or his wife. just so he can go down that road of things, i'm just disappointed that a guy i have genuinely stuck up for and never once put down in his sons presence, is being like this. I really am torn lol. because i try to put myself in his shoes an say what would i do, but i cant see me doin what he does. Firstly, i'd live nearby regardless. And at the age his son is now, in the near future he could be popping round on his bike callin in to say hi, and you'd have daily contact with him, with no objection from the mother. The boy didnt ask his dad to go live 30 miles away. He is from this area and it isn't work keeping him where he is. My folks broke up when i was 4 an i nevr at anytime of my life remember it being like this!! lol