Tommy Robinson And The Chilling Echoes Of The Dreyfus Affair

[Khandro]

Very interesting analogy and a lesson in history thrown in:

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/tommy-robinson-and-the-chilling-echoes-of-the-dreyfus-affair/

Any comments ?

[Atheist]

Dreyfus allegedly passed secrets to Germany. Robinson has been convicted of crimes of violence and comtempt of court. Dreyfus was not convicted of either. I think your link piece is a bit batty.

[jackthehat]

No comparison.

[Untitled]

dreyfus wasn't guilty lol so the comparison ends there

[Peter Pedant]

I am let back on and read absolute twitface. Dreyfus was an army officer ( and Jew) and was framed as a spy by Esterhazy. He was immediately identified by Picqyard and all his pleas were ignored. Dreyfus was court-martialled Dreyfus was reconvicted on appeal !

He was eventually exonerated and drew his army pension and in 1940 appealed that the amount should be much much more ( restitution see Post Office) than the rank he retired on

Tarmy said naughty things outside a courtroom. He promised the judge he wdnt do it again

and went outside and did it

No contest

 

[nicebloke1]

Jesus, is it Easter already. :0)

[Peter Pedant]

The French wiki is much better

There were Dreyfusarda - he is innocent

Dreyfusistes - He is innocent but state sercrets are involved so it is so secret it cannot be discussed ( Ponting)

Dreyfusiens = ze Franch state ( ze Third Republic ) is en danger! ee must go into the slammer guilty or not

my my didnt they  have fun 

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_Dreyfus

[Khandro]

Dreyfus was wrongfully jailed and so was Robinson. 

History will eventually show Robinson was vindictively jailed for telling the truth and his conscience would not let him remain quiet about what he knew to be factual, because he'd seen it with his own eyes in his own town.

[jackthehat]

No. Robinson was jailed, in part, for contempt of court.

He's an agitating thug, Dreyfus was an innocent Jew.

[Clone]

You would need to build another 100 prisons if everyone who did the same thing as Robinson did was jailed.

 

[Clone]

That's re the mortgage fraud.

[Ellipsis]

If you take a look at Stephen Yaxley-Lennon long list of criminal offences, the most amazing thing is the brevity of the sentences:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson#Criminal_offences

[Ken4155]

^

Judge said "Don't."

Tommy did. Tommy bad boy. Tommy in jail.

[Clone]

In 2003 a real racist, Nick Griffin opened his mouth on the grooming gangs, he quickly shut up when leaned on by the authorities. 

Tommy Robinson, although late to the battle continued to speak up on the grooming gangs, even after being incarcerated and recieving many death threats.

[Old_Geezer]

The main point is that the length of sentence, in a prison he is considered at risk in, so has to be in solitary confinement, is way over the top for the nature of contempt of court committed.

 

The whole situation is ridiculous.

[tommy39]

tommy is a political prisoner.how times change,cos by comparison enoch powell would have been in nick under starmer

[Khandro]

If a person knows something to be true and he says so, and he gets hauled before a judge because someone else says it isn't true, and she says, if you say that again it will be a crime, and he says it again because he knows it is true. 

Isn't that really honourable and far from being the action of a "thug" ? (see above).

And before anyone says it; he was told if he admitted it was a lie she would knock 4 months off his ridiculously long sentence (in solitary).

Not being Jesus Christ, and being beaten down, Tommy finally agreed to that awful bargain and I would have probably done similarly.

[Barmaid]

Probably best to just read the actual sentencing remarks rather than some of the nonsense that is being trotted out on this thread.

http://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Yaxley-Lennon-Summary-of-reasons-contempt-of-court-sanction.pdf

[Ellipsis]

Have you seen all of the offences? Most of them are nothing to do with Muslims. Here's the first one ...

In April 2005 at Luton Crown Court, Robinson was convicted of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest against an off-duty police officer in July 2004. The officer had intervened in an argument in the street between Robinson and his then girlfriend, Jenna Vowles. In the struggle that followed, Robinson kicked the officer in the head as he lay on the ground. Robinson received sentences of 12 months and 3 months, which were served concurrently.

[Neveracrossword]

Thanks, Barmaid.

[Clone]

I've recently read some of the sentencing remarks about the people sent to prison after the recent protests, and have decided many judges are as bad as many police officers, councillors, so-called child protection officers, and MP's

 

Many of them have no interest in truth.