Are Unions on another planet?

[Kayless]

So the Pizza's are in financial mess, even Berlesconi realises that, they have a new governement to dig them out of the mess so what do the ATC unions do? yep you guessed it! Strike!

[Old_Geezer]

What other option do unions have if they disagree with what is being imposed on their members ?

[Kayless]

Get real perhaps?

[whatmeworry]

Whilst the likes of Bob Crowe parade themselves on TV shows doing the celebrety thing then there is no chance of them ever living on this planet.

Do as i say not as I do is their motto, all fine on their massive salaries, whilst most of thier "members" earn ordinary money.

Champagne socialism is alive and well, just ask rsouls like crowe

[Brenden]

And Scargill.

[sallybb]

They live on the planet, Only Black and White, they don'y believe in grey .

[Kayless]

Yes I'm sure old Bob loves is 1.5 million, shilling a week rent Union house. It makes me PMS laughing when they preach all the rich are barstwards but want nothing more than to be rich themselves and most amazing of all their dimwitted members can't see it!

[whatmeworry]

with TV he earns around £150k p.a. yet lives in a housing association property.

you would think with his communist socialist ideals he would now vacate the place for someone more deserving.

[Kayless]

I'm prety sure he lives in a Union owned £1.5m house, that he rents for very little.

[Quizmonster]

Click http://www.guardian.c...rivers-salaries-50000 Tube drivers...aren't they Bob Crow's guys?..are about to go onto £50,000 pa and good luck to 'em! Speaking of someone living in property he shouldn't be in, our illustrious ex-Secretary of State for Defence is STILL in his vastly expensive Grace and Favour flat a month after his "defenestration"! It's not only working blokes who take advantage, you know.

[B00]

Unions are a joke- why ive always refused to join one in whichever job ive been in, hate them.

[whatmeworry]

"It's not only working blokes who take advantage, you know. "

wouldnt disagree with that but we are talking about an openly admitted communist socialist, so this would seem to be sheer and utter hypocrasy

[seadogg]

There is a lot more to Unions than striking. Many members have found them invaluable for advice and backing, maybe more so in "white collar" unions (not involved personally btw).

[Quizmonster]

It's certainly no more hypocritical than for a raft of millionaire front-benchers to tell us, "We're all in this together." No, we're not!

[B00]

"There is a lot more to Unions than striking. "

Indeed, there's the union bosses doing very nicely from all your subscriptions, thank you very much ;-)

[seadogg]

I guess "all power corrupts" applies whichever side of the fence one is on.

[Sgt.Rock]

They are striking because contacts signed over 30 years ago are being torn up. What do they do,take it lying down?
An endless pot of money to pay jobless single mothers to breed, workshy "sickies" to spend all day in the pub, rehabilitate druggies, send students to university to gain pointless degrees.....I could go on. I love paying taxes for this sort of thing of course.

[B00]

I agree Sgt.Rock, your union subscription is far better being used elsewhere.

http://www.dailymail....-live-like-kings.html

[jno]

B00, I was in a union for nearly 40 years, got great value out of it and never minded paying in. In fact I'm still in it despite being retired so my subs will be of use to younger people. I've never regretted it for a moment.

Depends on how well any individual union is run of course, and that partly depends on how many willing members it has.

[B00]

Ahhh, but you're a nicer person than me jno, I look at the subs cost and then look at how much the bosses are on and think "pffft,! This money's staying in MY pocket, thank you very much- i've earned it"

[jno]

the union helped get decent annual wage rises, so it earned its keep, and gave very useful advice when I was negotiating an early retirement package. So I'm still well in the black with them. The union head was earning about half as much again as me, which is a pretty small gap. (I know it isn't directly comparable to a commercial environment, but if you were earning 60% of what your boss got, you wouldn't feel hard done by.)