Basic State Pension

[feebletoe1492]

how do people who have never made any NI contributions claim a basic state pension?...it seems unfair when people who have made 25 years of NI contributions can only claim the same.

[teacake44]

And who is going to employ anyone around the age of 67/68 that's even if your fit to work a full week.

[feebletoe1492]

Well that's true tea cake.. that's where the mandatory local cleaning jobs come into play.. as long as they have arms and legs they can engage with something useful to help the environment and boost their state pension

[teacake44]

Well I don't know how old you are, but trust me at 67/68 years old keeping your own house and garden respectable is a bigger enough task for most, without going out to do it for someone else, and even if one were so lucky to get such a job the pay is peanuts, either for early mornings, or late evenings, at max 2 hours per day, that's not going to pay household bills/ rent. They just want you to die before you get chance to draw any amount of pension.

[feebletoe1492]

your missing the point.. I'm saying the unemployed can help with our local services.. making an effort and a contribution towards their pensions.. the more (stamps) they get the better their final state pension.. I'm looking at all ages esp the young

[teacake44]

Well their either unemployed, or working in local services, which one is it?? Yon can't work, and be unemployed.

[Rockrose]

Do you think that the portion of your NI contributions that goes to fund your pension is actually sufficient to fund your pension - its not.
You are reliant on the next generation to fund on your pension

[teacake44]

Nobody is talking about that Rockrose, its about weather one will be able to still work at 67/68, or even get a job at that age, considering even younger people can't get jobs.

[Spicerack]

You'll be pleased to hear, feebletoe, that unemployed people are made to work (for nothing).
That's why there's been an explosion in mental health issues that experts can't understand.
Depression is the new bad back.

[Rockrose]

Well excuse me teacake!

[bainbrig]

What out, Spicerack, your disguise as a loony right-winger is slipping. You’re supposed to be in favour of Universal Credit!

[feebletoe1492]

sorry teacake you don't to be grasping what I'm saying. why can't the unemployed do mandatory jobs to assist local people. I'm not talking about 67/68 year old.. although many people older than that can make an amazing contribution.as a reward their stamp towards getting a full state pension gets paid. I t appears to me that you think people who haven't worked for years should get the same pensions as people who have worked all their lives.

[tamborine]

Wealthier pensioners are subject to IHT when chancellor gets more payback on top of paid NI.

[teacake44]

Ok feebletoe, in a nut shell, the answer to your thread question is.
( Its the law) the ups and down's have been explained very well by the judge. ( your best answer) why not read it again in its entirety.

[Rockrose]

If you stay at home and you raise your children - so not bringing in a wage - does that mean in your eyes feebletoe those women are not entitled to a full pension

[feebletoe1492]

Rock rose. I believe that if one parent stays at home to bring up children they should get their national insurance stamp until the kids get to 14 years of age.. it's a hard job and should get recognised for what they do. However this can only go to one parent.