name Reurner Varghese

[jubieanna]

I have been busy working on my family tree. I get so engrossed I haven't had time to talk to my answerbank friends! I hope you are all keeping well.

I have come across an ancestor with the name Zachariah Barnes Vaughan.born 1807. on the 1841 census his name is also Reurner Varghese.
Can anyone enlighten me with the origin of this name. I think it might be Indian, but I'm not sure which is the first name and surname.

many thanks

[dundurn]

Varghese/Verghese (and other variants) can be a first name or a surname. It is the Kerala (SW India) version of George.

[dotty.]

he is BARNES vAUGHN on the `1841 census, Ruerner Varghese does not exist it is a transcription error by ancestry.co.uk

[jubieanna]

thank you dundurn

[jubieanna]

oh dotty how do you know that it is an error?

[dotty.]

jubieanna have you looked at the original entry on the 1841? It does say Barnes Vaughan, it does not say Reurner Varghese at all, the enumerator's handwriting is poor and the transcriber for ancestry has mist-transcribed it

[jubieanna]

yes dotty I have looked at it. it does say Barnes Vaughan. so Reuner Varghese doesn't exist!

[dotty.]

correct lol, (see my article under the articles tab in this topic)

[jubieanna]

will do dotty thank you. I could have wasted a lot of time looking for Reuner lol

[dotty.]

another ancestry user has added a note about the name but not been clear about the transcription error, i have amended the note and shortly ancestry will alter their index to include the correct name,

[dotty.]

what is his connection to Vienna? was he a physician abroard?

[jubieanna]

thanks dotty

[jubieanna]

i don't know. how do you know he has a connection with Vienna?

[dotty.]

not sure yet, his brother Thomas Barnes Vaughan lived in Scotland for a while but they both seemed to end up in London I think

[dotty.]

he was born 9 Nov 1807 in Liverpool son of william and mary vaughan , they were non-conformists

[dotty.]

William Vaughan married Mary Barnes 12 Aug 1800 St Peter Church St Liverpool
Zachariah was baptised at the Byrom Street Baptist chapel Liverpool as was his brother Thomas (1804) and his brother William (1801)

[jubieanna]

gosh dotty you are so good at this! you should do it for a living! thanks for all the info x

[dotty.]

his wife was Mary (Marianne\) Riggs, they married in 1832 at St philips liverpool

[dundurn]

Sorry not to think of querying the info in your original post. The confusion of names did make me wonder whether there had been some sort of error. Like Dotty, I fairly regularly send in corrections to Ancestry.

Your ancestor's brother Thomas Barnes Vaughan lived in Dollar, Clackmannanshire. He's on the 1861 census with his wife and 5 children - all are shown as having been born in England. Contrary to Dotty's thought that he might have ended up in London, he died the same year still in Dollar. His father is given as William Vaughan, landed proprietor; his mother as Mary Vaughan, nee Barnes - both are shown as having pre-deceased him.

His death was the result of accidental poisoning - a confusion between two drugs. The circumstances were reported to the Procurator Fiscal who must have satisfied himself that there was no evidence of foul play nor of suicide.

I have viewed the census record and the death certificate and so could send you copies if you are interested.

[dotty.]

hi Dundurn, I have him marrying in london in 1834 and then living in Birkenhead in 1851 , it's only when I do a wider search he turns up in Scotland, he certainly moved about alot.

[dundurn]

Hi, Dot. Missed your post last night - we're down to one laptop and I'd had my turn for the evening! He did move around, didn't he? Why Dollar, I wonder? It's a nice enough place but a bit of a sleepy hollow. He had a very grown-up family. He, his wife and the two eldest girls (23 and 22) are all shown as Fund-holders (which I've always taken to mean "living off the interest/ dividends of investments". Then there are three boys (20, 17 and 16) The 20 and the 16 are shown as scholars. The 17 is left blank (may be a fund-holder).