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i am open to change with everything, that is why i am on this site to see what advice i can get, i never said much when she walked away, i just thought "hey ho" as for mum laying down the law, that has been tried only to be met with tears and statements of you dont love me by the daughter. at the minute she does not utter a word to me now, her mum seems like a personal slave and she just seems to have no idea of what hurt she is causing. self rule, self will with little regard of anyone around her, sorry if i sound totally negative here,