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This is the problem sherradk I have no idea what they are actually about. I've let him have a couple of games that are 15 and they are horrible, blowing up aliens, but apparently that doesn't count as they are 'only aliens'. His group of friends all go on line and play these games together so he is going to be left out and I know all of his friends parents and they are pretty sensible. OH says its no worse than what they played in the school playground but he's totally computer illiterate and a bit naïve....