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What Would You Consider To Be A Healthy Life Style?
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Following on from 3T's post last night (in news) concerning the death of a vegan.
I lost both my dad and brother in law as a direct consequence of smoking.
And yet I know a 93 yr old who smokes like a chimney and is fitter than I am.
I know of someone who virtually bragged that he never once went to sleep sober, who was in his eighties when he died. (of a completely unrelated death)
There are videos of a doctor on line who lived to be over a hundred (and many more)
who were either vegan or vegetarian.
Same with meat eaters and 'A tot of whisky and a smoke everyday' types.
Do some people just have good genes?
One of my former work colleagues died last year, aged just 60 (just 3 yrs older than me).
She didnt smoke, drink or do drugs.
Her eating habits were considered healthy by government standards.
Do some people just 'luck out' because of bad genes?
I lost both my dad and brother in law as a direct consequence of smoking.
And yet I know a 93 yr old who smokes like a chimney and is fitter than I am.
I know of someone who virtually bragged that he never once went to sleep sober, who was in his eighties when he died. (of a completely unrelated death)
There are videos of a doctor on line who lived to be over a hundred (and many more)
who were either vegan or vegetarian.
Same with meat eaters and 'A tot of whisky and a smoke everyday' types.
Do some people just have good genes?
One of my former work colleagues died last year, aged just 60 (just 3 yrs older than me).
She didnt smoke, drink or do drugs.
Her eating habits were considered healthy by government standards.
Do some people just 'luck out' because of bad genes?
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Yes, genes play a huge role in things. You basically get the cards you were dealt.
My uncle has never drank a glass of water or eaten a morsel of salad in his life. He smokes about 30 cigarettes per day. When he was on the road with Motorhead he drank at least a litre of whisky per day (he's been teetotal now since the early 90s). He lives on fry-ups, Chinese takeaways, pasties and about 15 mugs of coffee and 10 cans of Coke per day. He's tall, slim and, although he has a face like a bag of spanners, he's got no health issues whatsoever.
My uncle has never drank a glass of water or eaten a morsel of salad in his life. He smokes about 30 cigarettes per day. When he was on the road with Motorhead he drank at least a litre of whisky per day (he's been teetotal now since the early 90s). He lives on fry-ups, Chinese takeaways, pasties and about 15 mugs of coffee and 10 cans of Coke per day. He's tall, slim and, although he has a face like a bag of spanners, he's got no health issues whatsoever.
Sounds like Winston Churchill, naildit.
A lot is just a matter of luck, really and what genes you are born with. I knew a chap who ran marathons, ultra-fit, slender, ate a healthy diet, enjoyed moderate alcohol - went for a 4 mile training-run during his lunch hour, came back and dropped dead in the changing-room. He was 54.
Moderation in all things, exercise appropriately and enjoy life as much as possible is about the best I can offer. Obviously if there is an inherited weakness in the family, you take account of it. In Mr. J2's case it is heart problems and one of his sons has already had a heart attack (aged 50). It's known about, so they all take care.
A lot is just a matter of luck, really and what genes you are born with. I knew a chap who ran marathons, ultra-fit, slender, ate a healthy diet, enjoyed moderate alcohol - went for a 4 mile training-run during his lunch hour, came back and dropped dead in the changing-room. He was 54.
Moderation in all things, exercise appropriately and enjoy life as much as possible is about the best I can offer. Obviously if there is an inherited weakness in the family, you take account of it. In Mr. J2's case it is heart problems and one of his sons has already had a heart attack (aged 50). It's known about, so they all take care.
By far the healthiest man I knew was my wife and I's physio - he treated us for different muscle and strain issues.
He ate a perfect diet, exercised every day, and succumbed to brain cancer within weeks of diagnosis, in his early fifties.
My mother, who smokes untipped Senior Service all her life, did no exercise, and ate badly, lived to be ninety-two.
It can only be genes, it seems as though good living does not necessarily make a significant difference.
He ate a perfect diet, exercised every day, and succumbed to brain cancer within weeks of diagnosis, in his early fifties.
My mother, who smokes untipped Senior Service all her life, did no exercise, and ate badly, lived to be ninety-two.
It can only be genes, it seems as though good living does not necessarily make a significant difference.
Luck plays a huge part, genes will probably be responsible for deciding how and when most folk will die. In my family women generally live to 85+ ( those that didn't were either heavy smokers or had an underlying cardiac condition) men mostly die before 70 I suspect there is a genetic tendency to be a risk taking adrenalin junkie type as well as there being a drive towards addictive behaviour. I almost wonder if we have an invisible barcode in our genes with an approximate 'sell by ' date. In my case it was more like best before 2010
Andy,
My mother also ate crap,
(She basically lived on bacon fat and sugar)
She was also a smoker for most of her life and yet lived to be 88.
//It can only be genes//
Could it not also be attitude?
my mother was brought up in the war years where you were
taught to 'Suck it up and get on with it'
??
My mother also ate crap,
(She basically lived on bacon fat and sugar)
She was also a smoker for most of her life and yet lived to be 88.
//It can only be genes//
Could it not also be attitude?
my mother was brought up in the war years where you were
taught to 'Suck it up and get on with it'
??
But they were also a generation who didn't have an expectation of the sort of spans that are achieved today. Neither did they have the expectation they would be fit and well in later years, it probably meant they had a more realistic attitude to ageing. Now so many expect medical science to not only give extra years but also the ability to continue life style behaviours that they did in middle age. My grandparents were old at 60, my mother's generation considered 70 to be old , and adjusted accordingly.
naildit - // Often wonder how the likes of The Rolling Stones all live so long
given their rock n roll lifestyle of drink, drugs etc. //
For Keith, it has to be genetic, although his heroin was always very high quality - most addicts die from the additives used to cut the drug and increase profits.
Mick has never done drugs, and maintained a healthy diet and lifestyle from the sixties to today.
given their rock n roll lifestyle of drink, drugs etc. //
For Keith, it has to be genetic, although his heroin was always very high quality - most addicts die from the additives used to cut the drug and increase profits.
Mick has never done drugs, and maintained a healthy diet and lifestyle from the sixties to today.
nailed: "but some of the most long lived people that I know
have gone against the 'grain' of perceived wisdom. " - yes there will be those but the vast majority are effected. My mum smoked all her life and died of lung cancer at 69. That's common, it is extremely rare for a regular smoker to live over 90.
have gone against the 'grain' of perceived wisdom. " - yes there will be those but the vast majority are effected. My mum smoked all her life and died of lung cancer at 69. That's common, it is extremely rare for a regular smoker to live over 90.
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