Bad apple

[david small]

My grandson12/13 punched his mother in the face, and grabbed her, called her a bitch and threatebed to hit her again if she removed any item from his room as a punishment. any idea's

[sara3]

is his father around?

[boxtops]

Is this the first time it's happened? It sounds like a severe case of reminding him whose house he's living in is called for.

[sara3]

my son is 13, and if he punched me I would call the police.

he needs to know that it is not acceptable. if she wants to play it soft, she'll pay the price.

[david small]

Father left when child was about 3. no support at all, called his so a little sh*t on phone last year , child heard him. this the first time, he has hit her. he is also stealing from shops. daughter blames herself and is deeply ashamed. ghe has tried very hard to raise him well, church school etc.

[david small]

Tried the police tack, big officer did good job, but it did not last,

[Eve]

Just because she is his mother doesn't mean she has any less right to be protected from violence.

Unless he learns to control his behaviour then he needs to learn that he will need to pay the price for it.

[sara3]

is there a father figure? an uncle? someone he respects?

is he having problems with friends/school/spots? anything worrying him?

[cazzz1975]

kids dont just begin this behaviour from no where...

[D_James]

Call the police and frighten the Sugar out of him.

[boxtops]

Does domestic violence extend to abuse from children as well as from partners?

[david small]

There is no father figure. he is a consumate liar. there has never been any violence toward him. he is doing well at school, there was an incident where he got into a fightat dchool. they came down hard upon him.

[sara3]

it does, Boxy.. brothers and sisters, partners, grannies, the lot.

[Barmaid]

David, this is a slightly delicate question - has your grandson got any diagnosed difficulties? The only reason I ask is I am currently experiencing serious violence from my 11 year old step son - but he has severe learning difficulties and is on the autistic spectrum.

If he has no difficulties, and mum is reaching the point where she can't cope (and in my experience, violence escalates), I am inclined to agree that getting the police involved might help. Social services may also be a good source of information and advice.

[cazzz1975]

the kids next door swear and threaten violence, they are hit a lot by the parents and are let run wild, no parental control.

just sounded similar thats all

[D_James]

If they won't or can't involve the police take him to the G.P. And request a psychiatric evaluation as his behaviour is NOT normal.

[cazzz1975]

autistic kids can become violent for a certain reasons, not for the love or want to be violent. there is a trigger point that will be setting him off.

[david small]

thank you all. he seems to me to have a hard to define condition, there is something not quite right. His mother has done her best and suffers in silence. I feel it will escalate.
The docter my be the next step, as punishment ids no deterant. scocial services are the last port of call, I fear. thank you all.