A Bit Inconsiderate?

[milly143]

Just seen a friends status on facebook. It goes along the lines of how p1ssed off she is because the train is delayed. The reason it's delayed she says is due to a fatality.

Presumably someone jumping in front of it.

So she's angry because she's a bit late getting home. It's not the first time I've seen something like this written. It just seems a bit sad to me that you care more about a delay in your journey than you do about some poor sod who felt the need to top himself, or his family, or the poor train driver who had to watch his train kill someone. Now I'm p1ssed off.

[tiggerblue10]

Thats awful. Reminds me of the bloke who was going to jump off a building and a crowd of people below were goading him to do it! Sick!!!

[DTCwordfan]

"Bodies on the rails" is a bit more than "Leaves" or "Snow on the rails" - I wouldnt be ruffled around the boa though - a shrug of the shoulders at her attitude and perhaps a sarky remark, and then I would find a glass of red wine.

Speaking of which.......

[EcclesCake]

Bit of an emotive one this.

Suicide is an incredibly selfish act and jumping in front of a train is one of the most selfish ways of committing the act.

And before I get jumped on, I do know people who have committed suicide, including by jumping in front of a train.

[hippyhoppy]

Tiggs.. that happened here a few years ago.. a young chap on top of the multi storey carpark was being goaded by the crowd below, so much that the police moved them back, but he still called out something like 'Oh, life's not worth it' and jumped... Very sad as he was only a youngster..

[milly143]

I don't disagree with that Eccles. But you have to be in a mess to get to the stage where you actually do it. She might spare a thought for the train driver at least.

It's just got my goat a bit.

[4getmenot]

see 'stuck in traffic because of a crash' all th time on FB and I always make a point in saying 'hope no one was hurt' then they feel bad

[RATTER15]

Eccles, I will jump on you, just because you know someone that has committed suicide doesn't mean you know anything about the mental state of a person prior to that event, so please don't make ridiculous statements when in fact you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you think these people are thinking rationally!!!

You're attitude sickens me!!!

Try doing a little research on the mental state of someone about to commit this act before judging!!

[tiggerblue10]

Thats the one Hippy. couldn't quite remember the full story.

There was a guy that jumped off the building where I work and the whole road was cordoned off so that the Air Ambulance could land and people still moaned. We found out that his girlfriend had dumped him the day before. Very sad.

[milly143]

I can't believe people shout and goad someone in that position. What makes anybody think that's ok or even remotely funny.

[EcclesCake]

Ratter - I know a surprising amount about mental health and what drives people to suicide.

Suicide is a selfish act it leaves behind people who have to pick up the pieces and in the case of jumpers affects the poor sod who cannot stop in time and has to carry that guilt with them for the rest of their lives.

As I said at the very beginning it is a highly emotive subject.

[4getmenot]

i hope you said something to them milly

[Lore]

That's awful, milly. :(
I too would be a bit naffed off if a friend made a comment like that.

[B00]

you don't agree its a selfish act Ratter?

Afriad i agree with Eccles, in the fact that the sufferer is commiting the ultimate selfish act. Yes, I hear what you're saying about their emotional state at the time, but it doesn't detract that their passing will cause utter dispair and sadness for those who love them when they're gone.

[karenmac60]

Eccles, you may know people who have committed suicide, but have you ever been suicidal? There's a big difference and if you'd ever been there you'd know that far from being selfish, people often think they're doing everyone a favour by killing themselves.

Milly, I was on a train someone jumped in front of years ago, and the whole thing made me so sad. Far from being pi$$ed off, I no longer cared about my journey. The worst thing was finally getting a bus and passing the train station where they had to retrieve the body from just as the ambulance coming out with its lights off. So sad.

[milly143]

I'm trying to decide whether to comment or not. She's a really nice girl in general so I'm surprised she said. Not sure how to word what I want to say without being a b1tch.

[seadogg]

Was in a rescue team and some of our casualties were people who had topped themselves. On the job we did what was necessary with max efficiency but afterwards in the pub people said what they thought about an individual who had put his fellow humans through a harrowing and sometimes dangerous experience for his own ends.

Similarly you could think what you liked about some fool hazarding lives through carelessness and incompetence- as long as you didn't show it during the rescue.

[4getmenot]

if she's a friend you shouldnt have to think about how to word it she should take it as your opinion. I'd have put 'i'm sure an hr out of your time is better than that poor family who is getting some bad news right now'

[Old Salt]

You would be wasting your time milly143, and probably start a slanging match, which no one can win but will result in a barrel-full of bad and hurt feelings

Sometimes you just have to bite you tongue.

Been there, done it, got the t-shirt and got severely burned
~Old Salt

[Postdog]

Why assume it WAS a suicide - accidents happen. I've seen someone fall off a platform before.

[DTCwordfan]

Boo I am not coming after you deliberately on this, please accept that. But you and Eccles well I don't think that you do know what it is like.

If you have been there, such thoughts of effects on others do disappear from your logic radar chart......it is the state of depression that you trun so inwards. If you call that selfish, but it isn't that as your mind isnt functioning rationally - and indeed one of the drivers is self-preservation or rather the inversion of this.

I will admit to been there done that to the point of being right on the edge and then, fortunately, some sanity came back in at the very last second.......and a hell of a lot of guilt of another type.

One of the reasons that I am back here in the UK.