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ToraToraTora | 12:49 Wed 04th Oct 2023 | News
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https://labourlist.org/2023/09/our-research-shows-voters-want-to-cut-meat-consumption-labour-policy-must-reflect-this/

Clearly "‘Our research shows voters want to cut meat consumption. Labour policy must reflect this’" - is a thinly veiled intention to tax meat. They know that most veggie types are lefties anyway so they feel safe with this policy.

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TTT

 

You might want the Ed to close this thread unless you're happy to be embarressed by it.

You really should have dug a little deeper.

That article is from the blog Labourlist. They are no affiliated in any way with the Labour Party.

Labourlist could implore the Labour Party to cut meat consumption, but that's all. It's like a Conservative blogger imploring the government to kick start the economy by giving everyone a free Ford Fiesta at the age of 18.

Also - it's not a thinly-veiled intention to tax meat. It could be a proposal to make meat alterbatives much cheaper.

But whatever - you've got the wrong end of the stick.

In fact, you've got the wrong stick completely. The stick you want is on the back seat of a Volvo going up the M4.

Sounds like they need to dig deeper into their research. Maybe the folk they asked are hoping to eat less of everything. 

 

In any case they didn't suggest those polled asked to be a cash cow for more tax. So how will policy reflect their questionable conclusions ?

OG

You appear to have made the same mistake as TTT. Policy doesn't come into it because these proposals didn't come from the Labour party.

It came from a random blog with no formal association with the Labour Party.

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... and keep Larry out of it.

This was actually brought up at the Tory conference in a speech and exposed as, frankly, a lie 

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You mean an opinion? a belief?

14 39 Just another Tory lie then

And what exactly is the lie?

Labourlist do seem to be saying it so how is it a lie?

And they suggest labour policy should adopt it.

So how would they achieve it? As tax is most often used by politicans to control the masses its not a great leap forward to suggest this might be a way surely?

 

youngmafbog

"Labourlist do seem to be saying it so how is it a lie?"

It's a lie to say that the PM has blocked move to implement it. It's wrong to believe even for a second that this is Labour Party policy.

Labourlist is not affiliated or endorsed by the Labour Party.

If you had a blog where you suggested that the winter fuel allowance should be means tested (which it should), the government can't say it's blocked those proposals - because you have no power to implment them.

Footballisation of politics.

 

// It's wrong to believe even for a second that this is Labour Party policy.//

I havnt though, and neither has TTT - directly.  He has left it to the reader to draw their own conclusion on who he means.

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sp: "It's a lie to say that the PM has blocked move to implement it." - How, he has blocked it by being the PM and not implementing it.

"It's wrong to believe even for a second that this is Labour Party policy." - They are too clever to say it directly but like a lot of things in any party it's policy, it may not be written down anywhere but it's clearly the direction they are headed.

TTT

"How, he has blocked it by being the PM and not implementing it."

What?

Really - no...WHAT????

Sunak cannot claim to have blocked something that hasn't been put forward as a serious policy by any elected authority.

It's like saying that he'd blocked giraffe hunting in East Dulwich.

Remember today - it's the day that we have something in common...we both know you're wrong.

 

;-)

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Perhaps he's talking about the anti Meat lobby in the tory party? Yes there are some tories that don't eat raw meat exclusively.🥩

Could well be TTT

Most people eat too much meat anyway, but I don't think it should be taxed as it would target the poorer members of society most.                                                                                I think halal meat should be banned though, and the intensive farming of chickens and pigs too.

In fact the whole manner in which animals are treated needs to be overhauled (I do eat meat myself). 

I suspect the author of the piece belongs to a religion that thinks the cow is sacred.

Labour List is a publication which is independent of the Labour Party. 
The fact that doctors say we should not eat so much meat is a health issue not a taxation issue.

Taxing meat to earn revenue has never been Labour Party policy.  Speading a mistruth that Starmer plans to do that shows hoe desperate the Conservatives are, and how infested thety are with conspiracy theorist twonks.

Khandro @ 15.42:

"Most people eat too much meat anyway,". 

How do you know that and why should it concern you?

^^ You should just see the size of the portions of meat you are given in the restaurants in this part of the world, & I never see any left uneaten.

We usually ask for a 'doggie box'  

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