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salla twice and now Welshy have been "snitched on" for using the firm's PC to indulge in AB correspondence........two very popular and lied Abers.
Is this a reasonable attitude by the employer whether he is the Public sector (tax payer) or the private sector?
Is the argument that providing one "get's the job done" then internet activity is reasonable.
If you were paying someone would you be happy that a significant amount of time was used up on AB?
A difficult one.
Is this a reasonable attitude by the employer whether he is the Public sector (tax payer) or the private sector?
Is the argument that providing one "get's the job done" then internet activity is reasonable.
If you were paying someone would you be happy that a significant amount of time was used up on AB?
A difficult one.
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I think there is an issue in that company policy will often be that it is not permitted, in order that people don't abuse it at the expense of getting the work done. Manager's /employers are then in a difficult position when it comes to a member of staff using the internet and but also completing their work as not disciplining them for it is against policy and therefore unfair to colleagues.
Morning sqad, it is a difficult one to answer but I think doing this to a person far out weighs the actual question,
You will always get people who abuse any system and it is those that make it worse for the ones who don't, a few 'perks' of the job get taken away because it has been abused..imo or by someone hiding behind a keyboard as I can't see them writing in long hand?
You will always get people who abuse any system and it is those that make it worse for the ones who don't, a few 'perks' of the job get taken away because it has been abused..imo or by someone hiding behind a keyboard as I can't see them writing in long hand?
Although we haves ome examples relating to AB use the same issue arises many time s every day for Facebook, cricket scores, personal emails, booking holidays.
It's up to employers to decide what's right for them. I have worked with employees who abuse dthe system and when you are trying to plough through a backlog of work or running around picking up phone calls it's annoying when someone is sitting laughing at jokes on the internet or watching Saturday's Premier league goals at regular intervals. I such cases the employer should monitor use and restrict use.
When I managed people I was happy for my employees (if I had any now) to have some access (we all need to chill for 5 minutes every couple of hours) but they knew it was monitored and they could be disciplined for abuse. I'd also make comments where i could before things got out of hand.
It could be argued, though, that if someone has time to spend maybe an hour a day on non-work related issues they should ask for more work or at least ask permission to use the time to go on the internet. In my experience there's always some work that needs doing somewhere.
It's up to employers to decide what's right for them. I have worked with employees who abuse dthe system and when you are trying to plough through a backlog of work or running around picking up phone calls it's annoying when someone is sitting laughing at jokes on the internet or watching Saturday's Premier league goals at regular intervals. I such cases the employer should monitor use and restrict use.
When I managed people I was happy for my employees (if I had any now) to have some access (we all need to chill for 5 minutes every couple of hours) but they knew it was monitored and they could be disciplined for abuse. I'd also make comments where i could before things got out of hand.
It could be argued, though, that if someone has time to spend maybe an hour a day on non-work related issues they should ask for more work or at least ask permission to use the time to go on the internet. In my experience there's always some work that needs doing somewhere.
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"It could be argued, though, that if someone has time to spend maybe an hour a day on non-work related issues they should ask for more work or at least ask permission to use the time to go on the internet. In my experience there's always some work that needs doing somewhere"
To me, that is the bottom line.
My daughter in law is a logistics manager (ess) for a well know major company and she finds more time to email mrs sqad, than does mrs sqad to email her.
"It could be argued, though, that if someone has time to spend maybe an hour a day on non-work related issues they should ask for more work or at least ask permission to use the time to go on the internet. In my experience there's always some work that needs doing somewhere"
To me, that is the bottom line.
My daughter in law is a logistics manager (ess) for a well know major company and she finds more time to email mrs sqad, than does mrs sqad to email her.
I will repost what I have put on another thread
I have never had a job that allowed internet use except at break times and to a degree I believe that it is a good rule in the workplace, because as we know the internet can be addictive and sometimes it can take over whether we like it or not and our thoughts could be more on, say, AB, than the job we are doing, so it could interfere in more ways than one.
I have never had a job that allowed internet use except at break times and to a degree I believe that it is a good rule in the workplace, because as we know the internet can be addictive and sometimes it can take over whether we like it or not and our thoughts could be more on, say, AB, than the job we are doing, so it could interfere in more ways than one.
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However, if companies allow internet use then they should actually determine in a contract how much time is acceptable so the staff know their limitations.
Having said that, I would never report a colleague. That isn't acceptable. It's up to management to find out for themselves. Surely they should be monitoring IT use.
I will miss Welsh Yorkie, he has had a difficult year, he didn't deserve this. I wish him all the best.
However, if companies allow internet use then they should actually determine in a contract how much time is acceptable so the staff know their limitations.
Having said that, I would never report a colleague. That isn't acceptable. It's up to management to find out for themselves. Surely they should be monitoring IT use.
I will miss Welsh Yorkie, he has had a difficult year, he didn't deserve this. I wish him all the best.
I don't know the nature of WYs work but think that my feelings on the issue would be determined by just that.......
If there was a 'set amount' of work to be achieved daily, I would be inclined to allow internet usage providing all of my targets were being met. If I felt that the time used on browsing was such that my employees could be reasonably expected to increase their output, I'd raise my targets.
If my employees were tied to the PC and only worked as and when presented with work ('phonecalls and such) I'd be content to let them while away the boring interludes by surfing, providing all the work was dealt with in good order and time as and when it arose.
If there was a steady turnover of work, I wouldn't object to the occasional 10 minutes throughout the day, again, providing *my* business took priority.
If there was a 'set amount' of work to be achieved daily, I would be inclined to allow internet usage providing all of my targets were being met. If I felt that the time used on browsing was such that my employees could be reasonably expected to increase their output, I'd raise my targets.
If my employees were tied to the PC and only worked as and when presented with work ('phonecalls and such) I'd be content to let them while away the boring interludes by surfing, providing all the work was dealt with in good order and time as and when it arose.
If there was a steady turnover of work, I wouldn't object to the occasional 10 minutes throughout the day, again, providing *my* business took priority.
I answered your question Sqad. As I said I copied and reposted from a section where the comments about Welshy were appropriate and let's face it Welshy and Salla were mentioned in your question!!
So you actually probably would have been better to have left out there names from your question.
Don't be so picky and pompous!!! ;o)
So you actually probably would have been better to have left out there names from your question.
Don't be so picky and pompous!!! ;o)
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