Ched Evans Back Have You Read The Trial Transcript ?

[in a mo]

www.chedevans.com/key-and-undisputed-facts
I am not sure how to post this so as to go direct to the site but the information on here is incredible ,please read before you post a reply.There is video evidence from Major Incident Log,Tweets from complainant.There is so much ,it will take a while to read but may I suggest it is worth it .2 sides to every story.

[sandyRoe]

The judge and jury heard his side of the story, probably presented by very expensive lawyers, and didn't believe it. I'm sure they appealed the conviction and sentence without getting the result they wanted.
He's guilty but still isn't accepting that.

[andy-hughes]

I have read the piece on the Ched Evans website.

If your post is intended to provide evidence to vindicate Mr Evans behaviour, that would appear redundant - he has been charged, tried, convicted, and served his sentence.

So I am unsure of the reason for your post - would you care to elaborate?

[ummmm]

I think in a mo 'wants' him to be innocent.

[janbee]

A jury and evidence found him guilty. End of...

[kvalidir]

None of us were in court to hear all of the evidence, snippets can be taken to mean whatever the snippet poster wishes, unless I could relive the trial I'd be loathe to comment one way or the other except to say that the jury found him guilty.

[ludwig]

janbee // A jury and evidence found him guilty. End of... //

andy-h // that would appear redundant - he has been charged, tried, convicted, and served his sentence. //

Not really. If a miscarriage of justice has occurred - and I'm not saying it has, but they do happen - then surely he's entitled to try and clear his name?

[andy-hughes]

LUDWIG - "andy-h // that would appear redundant - he has been charged, tried, convicted, and served his sentence. //

Not really. If a miscarriage of justice has occurred - and I'm not saying it has, but they do happen - then surely he's entitled to try and clear his name?"

Absolutely.

Butas I understand it, the only grounds for appeal would be significant new evidence not presented at the trial, and it does not appear that Mr Evans and his legal team are in possession of any such evidence.

[ludwig]

// Butas I understand it, the only grounds for appeal would be significant new evidence not presented at the trial, and it does not appear that Mr Evans and his legal team are in possession of any such evidence. //

Yes, and there most likely never will be, because there are only three people that know what actually happened that night.

The only thing I'm questioning is the 'He should shut up and accept the verdict' mentality. If he's been the subject of a miscarriage of justice - and again I'm not saying he has been - but if he has, then he shouldn't be expected to shut up and accept the verdict. Any normal person in that situation would want to clear their name.

[kvalidir]

I think that is a perfectly valid viewpoint Ludwig.

[ludwig]

Thankyou kvalidir.

[andy-hughes]

ludwig - "The only thing I'm questioning is the 'He should shut up and accept the verdict' mentality. If he's been the subject of a miscarriage of justice - and again I'm not saying he has been - but if he has, then he shouldn't be expected to shut up and accept the verdict. Any normal person in that situation would want to clear their name."

I would entirely agree.

Aside from the legal apsect of this case, Mr Evans' public profile is going to require some serious re-building work.

I understand he has been taken back on by his football club, but only insofar as training him up to azppropriate levels of fitness, and there is no word yet of him playing for them or indeed anyone else.

I fully appreciate the basic right of any convicted criminal to appeal his convision, and that may be the reason why Mr Evans has yet to advise any remorse he may feel for his actions, or their impact on his victim.

Personally, I find it harder to sympathise with the fact that, had he thought about the simple fact that being in a relationship is not compatable with indulging in sex with a virtual stranger - this dreadful situation would not have arisen in the first place.

[in a mo]

If this was your son would you say ,he was found guilty End Of,In A Mo does not care if he is or isn't guilty ,what In A Mo wants is to make sure as near as possible that justice is done and if mistakes are made these mistakes are rectified,if you read the statements there is no evidence that anything that went on that night between consenting adults was other than consenting,The only witness was the SNOOP who was listening at the door ,now forgive me but I would have thought that borders on perverted.Flippant comments like one doesn't always get what one wants is not at all helpful Have you read the Tweets that the young lady sent a few months before the trial.
I have read all the way through the Web Site that I posted and I really do feel that much of the animosity shown to Ched Evans is because he is a Professional Footballer .
Just because the Judge and Jury have found you guilty it does not mean it is so ,just look through history you will find thousands of cases where mistakes /miscarriages of justice have taken place.But of course I have forgotten he must be guilty he is a professional footballer.

[ummmm]

So you think that if he wasn't a footballer he would have been found innocent? Even though he could afford the best lawyers?

[Baldric]

in a mo's link
http://chedevans.com/key-and-undisputed-facts

[andy-hughes]

in a mo - "I have read all the way through the Web Site that I posted and I really do feel that much of the animosity shown to Ched Evans is because he is a Professional Footballer ."

You could well be right.

The perception of professional footballers is young men with too much money, not enough common sense, and the morals of alley cats.

By his behaviour, Mr Evans has managed to tick all those boxes, but I would like to think it did not influence a jury who should be deciding on evidence alone.

[ummmm]

But when rich and famous people get off it's often said it's because they are rich and famous.

[jackthehat]

Ched Evans is perfectly entitled to challenge/appeal his rape conviction.

It is the 'trial by media' that his family, friends and supporters are subjecting his victim (until such time as he is cleared, she remains his victim) to that I find utterly appalling.

[Retrochic]

^^^^^^

totally agree well said.

[andy-hughes]

jack - "Ched Evans is perfectly entitled to challenge/appeal his rape conviction.

It is the 'trial by media' that his family, friends and supporters are subjecting his victim (until such time as he is cleared, she remains his victim) to that I find utterly appalling."

Indeed.

I understamd the poor woman has had to change identities and locations twice already because of identification by the supporters of Mr Evans.

I love my family deeply, but that does not blind me to the fact that they, and I, can be subject to occasional bad behaviour, although obviously nothing on this scale!

It would be better if Mr Evans friends and family allowed justice to take its course, and concede that even if they want to believe that he is not guilty of rape, he is guilty of behaving like a rutting teenager taking advantage of casual sex with a stranger.

That is not in itself illegal, but if a partner of a daughter of mine behaved in that way, he would not be receiving my support, emotional and certainly not financial, in the aftermath of his trial.