Grandparents Rights

[Beaubb30]

Hi, any advice would be really greatly appreciated.
Do us grandparents have any rights at all?
I've had my grandson every weekend since he was born. (He's 11 month old)
The last few months ive been having him 3/4 days a week.
Last week his mum decided she'd had enough she wanted to go out let her hair down and have fun! Told her id have my grandson, the day i was supposed to take him back she messaged can i keep him another night, they was just over a week ago and i still have him! I've asked if i can keep him long term while she sorts herself out and she said yes, that was yesterday, now she's saying she wants him back now! I've been warned if i get social services involved she'll stop me seeing him! And apart from her going out and not really bonding with my grandson he is looked after.
I absolutely adore my grandson, he's just everything, im just living day to day waiting does she want him back, doesn't she.

[woofgang]

"Question Author Wolfgang i absolutely get what you're saying and reading back i agree it does sound like that."

So its not true and you would agree to never seeing your grandson again if it was what was best for him? You don't have to answer on here but please be honest with yourself.

[Sqad]

I am guessing here, but a single mother, going out, getting drunk and probably pregnant again.
Grandparents need to take over the upbringing of this child.
My advice is to get into contact with Social Services and plead that the mother is unfit to look after the child and that you are willing to take over.

[ummmm]

Why would you say 'probably pregnant again'?

[Canary42]

Neither parent is fit to be a parent, unfortunately the Social Services are now so biassed in this respect, children suffer. In my experience they (the SS) do not act in the best interests of the child as they so sanctimoniously claim. The result is such heart-rending cases as yours.

[ummmm]

Barry - I don't think it's what my in-laws wanted. They did it for the kids because their mother was so unreliable.

I have one of them living with me but I've had 3 of them live here over the years.

[barry1010]

I get that, Ummm, but if the mother had refused it wouldn't have been easy for the grandparents.

[Beaubb30]

No Wolfgang i agree in that some points of my answers they could come across as self pity on my part or even selfish.
But my heart is breaking for my grandson and the unfairness that a parent could use an innocent amazing beautiful baby.
I'm not saying he isn't happy at home but i definitely see a difference when he's here with us.
My emotions are heightened so my words on here don't come across as how they are in my head.
Ultimately above literally everything he's my number one priority

[woofgang]

then go to social service.

[bednobs]

Where is your son living now? Sounds like she wants her son back so that your son does not "get " him via you

[lankeela]

Sounds to me like she will soon want you to help out again so I would just let her know you are always willing to have him.

[Peter Pedant]

nope or yep she can do this

I dont wanna say this but...... she's not keen on the kid, and neither are you. Poor kid

Your rights are nil in England as a starting point. You can get court apptd rights. I dont think that applies here.

your view of - I want the kid but not today
will lead to grandparent disaster
i wont even say - good luck
my sympathy is with the kid

[Peter Pedant]

lankeela - I dont think they want to be used as a dishcloth or dog kennel or parking space but that may be the only thing on offer

[Beaubb30]

Peter is that aimed at me?
I want my grandson full time! I work full time, i will more than happily pack my job in.
I'm confused as to where in my post you've come to the conclusion i don't want him

[davebro]

Ignore him - most people do!

[Peter Pedant]

// In my experience they (the SS) do not act in the best interests of the child as they so sanctimoniously claim.//

sorry there is a law that says they have to ( Children act 1989 ) - and if A says this is best for the child, the judge may not agree with A

[Peter Pedant]

// Ignore him - most people do!//
everyone does ! so what?

[woofgang]

I want my grandson full time! I work full time, i will more than happily pack my job in.

and we are back to what you want

[Beaubb30]

Woofgang you're absolutely wrong! No this is not about me! I want what is best for my grandson.
I watch everything, i see everything, i feel everything.
Fair enough ive not explained everything on this post so you can only go on what ive said but trust me, no way is anything about our situation about me.

[woofgang]

then involve social services.

[davebro]

Don't involve social services unless your grandson is at serious risk!