Slapping

[langara]

I have to get this off my chest, so here goes. Whilst putting my 2yr old grandson in a Supermarket trolley today, I saw a huge brute of a man Slap his 2/3 yr old so hard across his head I wouldn't be surprised if he hadn't perforated his eardrum, the child went brilliant red and was in shock. The man's wife/partner remonstrated with him by saying his name and that was it. I need to know what I should have done and said. As it was I did nothing and now feel so ashamed.

[redcrx]

a friend of mine witnessed similar last week, except it was a little girl being repeatedly smacked around head and sworn at.
My friend has notified social services and also spoke to the supermarket. They have it on CCTV and i believe are reporting the matter to the police.

[sqad617]

That was normal accepted punishment some 30 yrs ago and was banned because it bred violence.

We now, because of that change in child management, have a violence free society.

[sandmaster]

sqad - I don't agree that was accepted 30 years ago. A smack was a tap, on the legs or bottom. Used to show disapproval rather than to hurt. A swipe across the head is quite different.

[Phuckeruppa]

Right on Squad

[sqad617]

sandmaster....a matter of degree and interpretation.

Some of the smacks nad caneings were NOT a sign of disapproval but meant to hurt.

[sqad617]

sandmaster....should have said 40yrs ago.

[legendis.god]

squad is correct thee are many stories of how even nuns treated children like that because they were bad.

didnt judy garland get beaten by her mother with a coathanger and shoes?

not a new thing at all


but i think squid means we have gone so far in the opposite direction now


tthis would seem to be a clear case of assault on a child.if there are or have been others then it would be abuse .
that will be upo to the authorities to decide if they are informed

[Gormless]

When I was a kid, I was hit around the head, and the worst of it was, it was by proxy, i.e. just you wait until your father gets home. He had hands like small hams and it used to make my ears ring.

Legs ok, head never.

[ummmm]

Sandmaster....you obviously didn't grow up in the kind of families we did...!!

My mother was whipped so badly that she couldn't even take her knickers down to wee. This was a daily occurence.

Iangara....do what you feel fit.

[sandmaster]

sqad - I didn't say it did not happen (some of my teachers were sadistic) but it was not acceptable - except in the teaching profession perhaps. I think if my parents realised teachers used bunsen burner tubing and daps (trainers to youngsters today) they would have objected.
The headmaster using a cane was more reserved in his use.

[ummmm]

I must add. I've never really been hit or barely smacked. I was taught respect and I knew to have it by the look in their eyes.

[legendis.god]

except in teaching profession

by priests

by nuns


even today think of victoria climbie( google her name ) tortured by her aunty and also the cases of children kept in rooms and beaten

what about the family of mr fritzl?


its out there


folk tend to be more interestd in tv tho


and dont fiorget baby p


these arent just modern occurances they did happen in the good old days too

[no-knowledge]

most parents are not interested in justice they just want piece and quiet

[sqad617]

sandmaster....what you have described is not acceptable and falls into the category of "torture"

We are discussing punishment here and not physical abuse.....that is my defintion of physical abuse anyway.

[legendis.god]

peace ??




lol

[wolf63]

Just as bad is parents walking down the street with toddlers trailing 20+ feet behind them.

I saw one girl the other day, she was walking down a busy street in town texting on her mobile phone. She turned a corner and her little boy (2 year old ish) didn't even see her turn the corner.

I followed the little boy to make sure that he got back to his mum - but she was totally oblivious to any possible danger.

[cazzz1975]

todays out of control children are supposedly because of the me me me generation of parents rather than how much they hit their children

I was only hit a few times as a kid but like you ummm I was taught respect and didnt dare misbehave once I was given that look!

I dont hit my children but they are great kids that are respectful and dont misbehave

[McMouse]

I was given the odd slap round the head by local uniformed coppers for doing what silly young boys did in those days. I grew out of it and became a responsible adult. Today the same behaviour would earn an ASBO and would be seen as a "badge of honour". It's time we went back to some of the old values and respect.

[sqad617]

Today....eg in a shop, airports etc, if a child is out of control and embarrassing the parents and onlookers, the parents do NOT know how to handle the situation.

We did 40yrs ago.

[ummmm]

cazzz....I bet you have the look also.

My Dad was all mouth and barely any action. If he even shouted at me he'd feel bad and take me to the shop for sweets.

God I miss him......he still use to bring me sweets until last year.