Missing Birth record

[Polly1958]

I am trying to trace where my Great Grandfather John William Beevers born @1864 came from.He married Alice Maud Allen in 1888 in Scarborough.I was led to believe he was from Scarborough but there is no sign of anyone with that name on the 1871 census that fits the bill.Unfortunately the only census i can find him on is in 1901 in Scotland,but it only gives that he was born in England.He has 3 children born between1894
and 1900 (one of whom is my Grandmother) they were born in Scotland and it does'nt state on their birth records where he came from.The only lead is the eldest child Allan who was born in 1889 in England again it does'nt specify where,but i cannot find any mention of him anywhere in the births or deaths.John William or William as he calls himself ,his wife Alice Maud and Allan are nowhere to be found in 1891 on either the England or Scotland census.By 1911 he has died as Alice Maud is a widow.
I have found 3 Birth entries for John William Beevers b 1864.One in Goole,another in Hull and the third in the West Riding.Given that he was a trawlerman,the first two would be the most obvious,but,i traced the one in Goole and the West Riding one and they married but not to Alice Maud.As for the one from Hull there is'nt a sign of him.I have his wedding certificate and his father was William,he was also a fisherman.I've thought about it being JW's second marriage but the dates don't fit as all the JW Beevers were married around the same time.
So to round up why is'nt there a birth entry for Allan Beevers? I have done all the variations of spellings,dates without names,names without date and nothing comes up.Its nearly driving me mad!I have resigned myself to the fact that the family just were'nt at home at the time of the 1891 census.
Any pointers would much appreciated,thanks Polly

[dothawkes31]

john william Beevers is on the 1881 census aged 22, a mate on the vessel 'Agile' moored at Elloughton Cum Brough, York, John Wm was born Sheffield Yorkshire . the vessel Master was Cornelius Waterhouse.

[dothawkes31]

I would imagine John Wm lied about his age at some point to gain his mates ticket

[dothawkes31]

sorry he is recorded as Beavers on the 1881

[Polly1958]

Thanks Dot,I will have a look at that though that would mean he was born in 1859.What do you think the reason is that there is no birth record for his son Allan born 1889?

[dothawkes31]

John W Beevers was baptised at Cowick in 1864 son of William and Eliza Beevers

[Polly1958]

Well i imagine the name would be transcribed wrongly at times.His son Allan was really Allen after his mothers maiden name

[Polly1958]

Yes ive researched that JWB and he married some one else.

[dothawkes31]

By 1889 births had to be registered or the parents were fined. Have you checked all counties/ I don't think it has turned up because the family were transient, they may not have registered him if they were travelling.

[Polly1958]

Yes ive tried loads of blind searches,thre is'nt even a record of his death.My mum said he was'nt very old when he died,he is down as being an invalid in the 1911 census

[Polly1958]

Thanks for your help Dot

[dothawkes31]

Hi Polly, I do think that there may be an issue with the census transcriptions you need to find them in, there are new transcriptions of some damaged original enumerators returns now available, i think it's on Findmypast. Also, have you looked for any hand written added entries in the GRO index for 1889. plus, if for any reason the family were on board a boat when Allan was born, the registration may not have iccurred until 1890.

[Polly1958]

Thanks Dot i will follow that up too.

[munchie63]

how about the one who died in Wortley, yorks in Dec 1901 ?

found that entry on freedbmd website

[Polly1958]

Thanks Munchie,but according to my mum he died at sea,i did find a death record in Hull in 1910 so that could be him.Polly