237SJ Each to their own -I prefer my burgers cooked rare with no fat -I have no care for munching on half cooked sinews and fat. You cook a sirloin steak and people say 'oh yes that tastes great what flavor! -so why if you mince it ,add herbs and seasoning, and cook it as a burger is it all of a sudden 'dry and tasteless you need to add fat? Of course I would not mince fillet steak that is stupid -I hate steak tartare and mincing fillet would be a waste of time. No wonder people say English cannot cook! lol!