Royal Crest On Post Boxes

[barry1010]

Prompted by another thread, as the Royal Mail is no longer state owned, and is just another PLC, should the royal crest be on the post boxes?
If so, who is going to pay to change them?

[ToraToraTora]

They won't change them, any new ones will have the new crest. There are still some in existence from previous monarchs.

[barry1010]

Good point, TTT. There is one with the VR crest just around the corner, one of those boxes sunk in to the wall.

I'll rephrase my question - as the Royal Mail is a PLC should new boxes have the royal crest?

[FatticusInch]

ToraToraTora
//They won't change them, any new ones will have the new crest. There are still some in existence from previous monarchs.//

That’s right. We still have one near us with GR on it, embedded into a wall.

[Peter Pedant]

yes....
very good point
and should I have a mask and spray paint CIIIR over the monogram ( gold of course!)

no silly I dont WEAR the mask - I er use it

[vulcan42]

Should it even be called Royal mail?

[ToraToraTora]

"I'll rephrase my question - as the Royal Mail is a PLC should new boxes have the royal crest? " - yes, the company may be a PLC but the service is a royal charter.

[barry1010]

Thank you

[barry1010]

Oh dear, this petition didn't go well
https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/56821

[FatticusInch]

There’s been talk in recent years about the function of Royal Mail and whether they’d survive in light of courier services etc?
Probably too big a cash for for the government atm.

[Bazile]

//Probably too big a cash for for the government atm.//

What do you mean ?

[zebo]

//They won't change them, any new ones will have the new crest. There are still some in existence from previous monarchs.//

When we moved into here we found a GR one in the garden. Someone was desperate for me to sell it to him, apparently in many villages round here the small boxes get stolen regularly.

[barry1010]

Fatti, the government gets no money from Royal Mail - why do you think it does?
They get the same taxes they get from any other business, nothing more

[FatticusInch]

barry1010
//Fatti, the government gets no money from Royal Mail - why do you think it does?
They get the same taxes they get from any other business, nothing more//

Mine was more an implication of what it takes in tax from them, the dodgy sell-off by Osborne in 2015 notwithstanding.

[barry1010]

If another company stepped in to the gap left a defunct by RM they'd pay taxes, too.
I'm not suggesting RM should be scrapped, it is probably the only country that delivers everywhere in the British Isles for a flat rate.

[FatticusInch]

barry1010
// Fatti, the government gets no money from Royal Mail - why do you think it does?
They get the same taxes they get from any other business, nothing more//

That depends.

https://www.taxwatchuk.org/tech_companies_2019_update/

//Eight large tech companies in the UK made an estimated £9.6bn in profit from sales to UK customers in 2019, a new analysis by TaxWatch shows.

​But by moving money out of the UK, these companies ended up declaring a fraction of these profits in the accounts of their UK subsidiaries, radically reducing their tax liabilities.

​Amazon, eBay, Adobe, Google, Cisco, Facebook, Microsoft, and Apple faced UK corporation tax liabilities of £297 million in 2019.

That puts the total amount of tax avoided by the companies in the UK at an estimated £1.5bn in 2019, the latest year where figures exist.//

[FatticusInch]

As you can see, the government sort of set a tone, way back when.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/vodafone-s-ps84bn-tax-avoidance-bonanza-nothing-for-taxpayers-in-verizon-deal-while-bankers-share-ps500m-in-fees-8794169.html?amp

[barry1010]

I'm well aware of the legal measures big companies employ to avoid tax, Fatticus. The government has chosen not to close the loopholes.

I am also confident that RM does not voluntarily pay more tax than they are legally obligated to, the same as any other PLC. Your post at 10.06 implied that the government was getting income from RM that it doesn't get from other companies.

[FatticusInch]

//Your post at 10.06 implied that the government was getting income from RM that it doesn't get from other companies.//

No doubt George looked after his own in the sell off/shares department.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/royal-mail-sell-off-george-osborne-3480746.amp

Cynical? Me? Abso-bloody-lutely!