Alcohol measures in a pub

[boyfox30]

In a licenced bar that sells SPIRITS in 35ml measures, should the likes of Baileys, Vermouths, Ports and Sherrys that are supposed to be sold as doubles be measured at 70ml for a double or served as 50ml measures?
The law stipulates that it is the spirits, Gin, Vodka, Whisky and Rum that should be sold in multiples of 35mls (if that is the chosen measurement of the premises) but i cannot find out an answer for Baileys, that you always see on optics in bars being sold at 50mls where 35ml measures are the chosen measurement. The same for port, sherry and vermouths. So is it 50mls or 70ml for a regular measure of these drinks?

[sweetdor]

70ml...if a pub is selling thier shorts at 35mls then they CANNOTsell any at 25mls or 50mls its one or the other

[rjkh]

Unless there is a difference between England and Scotland, I don't believe there are any restrictions on the measures these products can be sold in.

As you mentioned, the law only covers the sale of Gin, Rum, Vodka and Whisky.

Theoretically a pub could serve you a 5ml measure of Baileys and charge for it!

The only difference would be if the premises had a bar tariff stating the measure each product was sold in. In that case those measures (whatever they may be - and no, they wouldn't have to correspond to the bar's licence for serving the four main spirits) would have to be adhered to. If this was flouted it may be a case for trading standards rather than weights and measures.

[sweetdor]

there is a law, ive just come out of my own pub of which i was land lady you cannot serve 2 different sizes it has to be 1 or the other

[rjkh]

You have to be licensed to serve the four main spirits in one measurement or the other. The only other restrictions are on wines and draught beers and ciders.

If you (or anyone) can find details of a law that restricts the sale of any other products I would be most grateful!

[Mobile_Poser]

The law only stipulates the measurements for sale of gin, vodka, whisky and rum in the chosen measure of either 25ml or 35ml.

However the requirement for price lists is that all drinks must be listed at the chosen measurement for consistency and comparison of price.

Therefore it is possible to sell others at any measurement you wish.

The measurement requirements do not apply:

"when a drink containing whisky, gin, rum or vodka contains a mixture of three or more liquids."

"When a customer specifies the quantity of these spirits required in a mixed drink."

"There are no prescribed measures for other spirits or liquers. However, only metric measures may be used on price lists."

Quoted from the BIIAB Handbook for the National Certificate for Licensees (On-Licence)

Hope this helps