Driving mum and dad mad!

[foxydivano1]

Oh my god - before i begin, apologises if i offend anyone with this post.
But i am just watching the tv program - driving mum and dad mad! Is anyone else watching it? The kids on here are evil. You just know that these kids are going to turn into the yobs that are on the streets now, or even worse. A three yr old (with a dummy in his mouth) has just said "I'm gonna kill you, I would, I would" - oh my god, i cant believe this, and the shocking thing is, some of the parents look as though they are quiet decent. Obviously some look a bit rough and you can see that the kids have picked up their bad language and agression etc, but I am totally shocked. If I have kids, no way will the little ******* act like this!

[devilwoman]

there is no such thing as evil kids, not at this age anyway , it s the bad parenting that cause it, thesev parents are pretty c**p and shout swear and generally let the kids wind them up and the kids will learn their parents behaviour

[boobesque]

have to be with devil woman on this one, its not the kids fault, more often than not is is down to bad parenting, i mean calling your 3 year old girl a f***ing b*tch and rewarding bad behaviour, what do they expect, and the 7 year old violent one, he is allowed to watch whatever films he wants, what is that teaching him?
I can honestly say in my entire life (and lots of babysitting) that i havent ever come across kids as bad as these.

[noxlumos]

yeah with you 100% there devilwoman.
If you shout and hit, kids shout and hit. If you set good calm self disciplined examples, kids behave like that themselves. There are absolutely no rules in our house ( to encourage kids to think for themselves) excepting use your common sense and treat other people the way you would wish them to treat you and we have no anti-social behaviour because the kids feel loved and respected, so love and respect back.We are a large family and if we shouted and got wound up then there would be utter bedlam.The parents need to stop moaning and resorting to daft TV programmes and have a good look at themselves and what they are creating.It's not easy being a parent but it's a damned site harder the less you try.

[wonderwoman1]

i agree with you nox, it is the parents fault...i also think society now has a lot to do with it. not being able to smack your child is a nonsese...we were smacked as kids as were most of my friends when we were naughty and beleive me, we didnt do it again!!!!

[petes_dragon]

I'm with the others on this too - it's definitely down to the parenting....it comes back to the nature vs nurture theory, I think that no child is inherently horrible but they can become that way by learning from the environment they are raised in.

my son is three and a half and is being brought up in a calm and loving family environment, where there is no shouting and balling, arguing or violence (even on TV when he's around) and in return he is a calm and loving child.

I'm certainly not trying to paint him as an angel coz like any child he can be a little bu@@er too - and me and my husband a not perfect parents but I think the example that is set within the family is the most important!

My cousin has 3 kids between 1yr and 6yrs and they are horrid to each other - especially the middle one, but again this is down to the environment - the parents are always shouting and balling, drinking and arguing - what type of example is that to set.

A xXx

[devilwoman]

can i just say to wonderwoman1 i dont believe in hitting kids, no its not a smack that they need, i came from quite a bad council estate and believe me the kids in that area got plenty of smacks, they got smacked for getting caught doing wrong or when they were too noisy and neighbours complained ect, they got smacked for just being in the way and ruining plans for parents to have their mated rounnd for drinks parties and chilling out and so forth, what they did'nt get was explanations of what they did wrong, interest in what they did at school or who their friends were, in short those kids lives were plenty in smacks, void of love.

[noxlumos]

I never hit or raise my voice to my kids, I have tapped the back of my at the time 2 year old's hand and told him "NO!" when he was sticking a metal knitting needle in an electrical socket ( but that was for safety's sake and it wasn't a smack, just a shock value thing) but I have to agree with devilwoman that smacking should be wholly unnecessary, I've certainly never seen a scenario with my kids where it would ever be appropriate.My concern when you smack is that apart from it being wrong imho, you just give out signals that that sort of behaviour is ok and it normalises all of the anti-socialness that you're trying to get rid of.I was smacked as a kid and I was beaten badly too and niether did anything for me but send me on the road to not being able to control my temper, alcoholism and drug abuse and finally prison. Kids need unconditional love and the support to develop their own self discipline. Once they are self disciplining you don't need anything else, it all just fits into place.

[petes_dragon]

I agree with devilwoman & nox too - no-one needs to smack a child, all that is doing is reinforcing that it is ok to hit people, if the child did this they would get told off and therefore get a mixed message - no wonder they are hard to control!!

Children need to be in a calm, loving environment and this is the behaviour that needs to be re-enforced, not shouting, hitting etc

A xXx

[foxydivano1]

OK, I think I need to explain - I was typing the original post whilst watching the programme. I agree with all of you that it is down to the parents to be the example of how the children should act. The kids behaviour was awful, but this is due to how the parents - I know this.
I have loads of years experience looking after children, and not once have I seen such bad behaviour, and the thing that annoyed me the most is that some of the parents were laughing when they saw the video clips - ok this could have been out of embarrasment, but it just seemed as though they werent bothered!

[spanner7853]

i must admit that i cant bare to watch programmes like that. who can you blame but the parents. I saw the advert with the child saying 'im going to kill you' and the parents that were in tears. why are you crying? you created that child to be how it is. I do feel like running in there house and taking there children to a calm place god it must be hell on earth in there heads. My children obviously have naughty moments and a lot of it they learn from school and the children there but most of these children are pre-school age. it's such a shame i just hope they are helped before it's too late.

[bookermel]

Dont forget that a lot of these so called fly on the wall programmes only show the bits that will get the most reaction. I have not seen this particular programme and generally dont watch them, finding many of them exploititive to the extreme! I saw the trailer and like many of you have said believe that children often mimic their environment. They learn language and actions from the family unit. But I fail to see how these programmes really help. They give shock value, they allow those of us (probably including me) who feel we are doing a good or ok job the opportunity to be smug. But I wonder do they actually change anything for the better?

[2006]

It is no the parents fault that the children are so bad

[2006]

It is not the parents fault tha they are so bad

[2006]

You can't control what they do

[Natural]

I would like to set the record sraight to the lot of yous. The parents in the programme is all silly because there is no way i will tolorate any of that behaviour i see all those children going on with one hard smack on their bum and that will put the children straight and i don't want to hear no rubbish that is child abuse because it is not because when you show your child who is boss then they won't have the chance to show you up in public. I also think it is to do with culture differences really because i'm not being funny but the parents on the programme are all white and they are alittle bit soft when dealing with their children and always seem to give in very easily . my advice is to be firm and consistant and toughen up a bit more and give the child a slap on the back side if they don't listen to you instead swearing all the time.