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annie, i just love red cabbage done that way, and we've had it for the last few christmases. this year, due to a bereavement in the family and because things will be very different anyway, i thought i'd try and look 'outside the box' (or whatever the saying is) and not do anything we've had before. coccinelle, i did wonder whether something very tart, like marmalade, would be good to cut through the fat, bit like duck with orange or cherry. i know someone who always has marmalade with a full english breakfast!