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Are we only allowed to be patriotic during 'The World Cup' ?
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I paid a visit to my local supermarket today, only to see the car-park festooned with St George's flags, and on the road home, enormous similar ones were draped out of windows.
Nothing wrong with that one may say, but the trouble they wasn't the standard St George's flag, no these had been defaced (in my opinion) by the addition of Lions and Crowns, others by the word ENGLAND.
Are they purposely defaced in such a way, so that they won't offend?
It is strange that the Englishman has to wait before his beloved soccer team enters a 'World Cup' tournament before he flies his country's flag with pride.
It is also strange that he can say with pride "I am an English man, and my countries team is better than any other" yes he is allowed to say this without being branded a 'Racist', strange.
Yet when the tournament is over, the flags will disappear, certain councils will ban them being flown, and the word 'ENGLAND' will disappear to be replaced by 'British' or 'Brit', and then to get up and say "the English are better than any other" this is then construed to be racist.
So even if one hates soccer, take this short opportunity to fly your flag, stick your chest out, and tell everyone how great it is to be British, (ups can't get out the habit) ENGLISH.
Nothing wrong with that one may say, but the trouble they wasn't the standard St George's flag, no these had been defaced (in my opinion) by the addition of Lions and Crowns, others by the word ENGLAND.
Are they purposely defaced in such a way, so that they won't offend?
It is strange that the Englishman has to wait before his beloved soccer team enters a 'World Cup' tournament before he flies his country's flag with pride.
It is also strange that he can say with pride "I am an English man, and my countries team is better than any other" yes he is allowed to say this without being branded a 'Racist', strange.
Yet when the tournament is over, the flags will disappear, certain councils will ban them being flown, and the word 'ENGLAND' will disappear to be replaced by 'British' or 'Brit', and then to get up and say "the English are better than any other" this is then construed to be racist.
So even if one hates soccer, take this short opportunity to fly your flag, stick your chest out, and tell everyone how great it is to be British, (ups can't get out the habit) ENGLISH.
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It would seem even during the World Cup period, some are still not allowed to fly the flag.
It would seem even during the World Cup period, some are still not allowed to fly the flag.
I take the opposite view OG.
As far as i aom concerned, I am British / English by an accident of birth, and nothing more.
This does not confer on me some god-given right to adopt either a superior attitude to other nations who were born elsewhere by a similar quirk of fate, and it absolutely does not confer on me any propriatorial rights about the piece of the planet I occupy, as though it is 'mine' by birthright.
Therefore, I feel no sense of 'patriotism' what ever. I have done nothing whatsoever to become 'British', and apart from being a law-abiding tax-payer, i cannot claim that my contribution to the culture or well-being of this section of the planet entitles me to get chippy about other individuals who may choose to occupy it with me.
I do, however feel a profound sense of relief that i am born in to an rea with freedoms and support systems that remain the envy of the world, but again, that is my luck and good fortune, to be appreciated.
That is not the same as picking fights, moral, religious, or otherwise, with anyone who doesn;t happen to agree with my viewpoints and lifestyle.
I will not be flying flags, and certainly not be 'sticking my chest out' - I would feel faintly ridiculous doing so - World Cop or not.
As far as i aom concerned, I am British / English by an accident of birth, and nothing more.
This does not confer on me some god-given right to adopt either a superior attitude to other nations who were born elsewhere by a similar quirk of fate, and it absolutely does not confer on me any propriatorial rights about the piece of the planet I occupy, as though it is 'mine' by birthright.
Therefore, I feel no sense of 'patriotism' what ever. I have done nothing whatsoever to become 'British', and apart from being a law-abiding tax-payer, i cannot claim that my contribution to the culture or well-being of this section of the planet entitles me to get chippy about other individuals who may choose to occupy it with me.
I do, however feel a profound sense of relief that i am born in to an rea with freedoms and support systems that remain the envy of the world, but again, that is my luck and good fortune, to be appreciated.
That is not the same as picking fights, moral, religious, or otherwise, with anyone who doesn;t happen to agree with my viewpoints and lifestyle.
I will not be flying flags, and certainly not be 'sticking my chest out' - I would feel faintly ridiculous doing so - World Cop or not.
Actually, the case of the England flags in this years World Cup is quite a good example of why I find the stories about flags being considered offensive/banned/whatever a little hard to accept.
So, in this case, rumours seem to have started circulating that England flags/shirts/whatever would be cracked down upon - which the authorities then dismissed as nonsense. (See here: http://news.bbc.co.uk..._midlands/8697240.stm )
But if untrue rumours about World cup flags/shirts are circulated so easily, then surely it's equally easy for misrepresented chinese whispers about councils banning flags to circulate? It just seems too daft to take at face value to me.
So, in this case, rumours seem to have started circulating that England flags/shirts/whatever would be cracked down upon - which the authorities then dismissed as nonsense. (See here: http://news.bbc.co.uk..._midlands/8697240.stm )
But if untrue rumours about World cup flags/shirts are circulated so easily, then surely it's equally easy for misrepresented chinese whispers about councils banning flags to circulate? It just seems too daft to take at face value to me.
dh001:
That's interesting, but surely understandable? If your case is true, then that hardly has the doom-laden implications that all the rumors about English flags being banned usually come attached with, does it?
The flag-banning thing has always seemed to me as something which could well have sprung from some relatively minor event and just snowballed...
That's interesting, but surely understandable? If your case is true, then that hardly has the doom-laden implications that all the rumors about English flags being banned usually come attached with, does it?
The flag-banning thing has always seemed to me as something which could well have sprung from some relatively minor event and just snowballed...
Geezer,
Canterbury City Council is strictly enforcing long established rules about what can be displayed on Public Service vehicles. They are not being unpatriotic or disrespectful of our flag. The rules ban any signs, letters, motifs, emblems, or marks from taxis. So any flags, not just the St. George's flag are not allowed.
Canterbury City Council is strictly enforcing long established rules about what can be displayed on Public Service vehicles. They are not being unpatriotic or disrespectful of our flag. The rules ban any signs, letters, motifs, emblems, or marks from taxis. So any flags, not just the St. George's flag are not allowed.
On both cars in out household the eu flag on the numberplate has been covered by an english flag sticker, in my housemates case there is a Polish flag sticker as well as she is half and half as it were ,in the back window is an England rose and an english rugby supporters sticker and we fly the St George cross for major sporting events and St George's day when we both also wear red roses.
When in my nursing days I was told by student nurses the college had said there was no english culture so they didn't need to do anything for a 'cultural event' I put together a teaching session and helped them collect material for an English Culture display... It doesn't mean I don't like and respect others from differnt backgrounds it just means I value my own...I don't think it is better to be English just as good as being anything else
Oooh I'm all fired up now...
When in my nursing days I was told by student nurses the college had said there was no english culture so they didn't need to do anything for a 'cultural event' I put together a teaching session and helped them collect material for an English Culture display... It doesn't mean I don't like and respect others from differnt backgrounds it just means I value my own...I don't think it is better to be English just as good as being anything else
Oooh I'm all fired up now...
"Taxi drivers in Kent have been warned by Canterbury City Council that they could have their licences suspended if they fly the St George’s Cross."
What's the betting the Mail has accidentally omitted the words 'on their cabs'? I would be quite surprised if they have been forbidden to fly flags at their homes.
What's the betting the Mail has accidentally omitted the words 'on their cabs'? I would be quite surprised if they have been forbidden to fly flags at their homes.
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