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Iacgmouh - Richard Madeley
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I see Richard Madely has been taken to hospital 'as a precaution' after falling ill on the show.
I remember forty years ago when we as a nation watched aghast as Clive James showed clips of Endurance', a Japanese game show where contestants were tortured for the entertainment of the viewing masses, and he quite rightly pointed out that this was a hugely horrible way to offer something disguised as amusement for anyone who was disturtbed enough to find entertainment in it. We all put it down to a fundamental cruelty in the Japanese psyche, and nodded that we are very very different in the West.
Now, we have exactly the same thing, except without even the poor excuse of offering money prizes to unknowns - we have it with rich 'celebrities' being paid fees to humilaite themselves for the edification of the viewing public.
What sort of a viewing nation have we become where making people ill is seen as entertainment? If we have slid down that path in a mere forty years, what sort of a dystopian future are we headed for?
Are we going to torture animals for amusement? Oh, I forgot, we've already done that in this horrible programme - but because the creatures concerned do not make any noise when eaten alive, and are not judged attractive enough for anyone to disgusted at their treatment, only their appearence.
I honestly think we have to have a serious look at what sort of a culture we are turning into, and maybe think about stopping this nonsense, however popular it may be.
Popularity is simply not justification for this kind of programme - let's be honest, you could produce a show of bear baiting and it would achieve an audience.
Time to stop pandering to the worst in people, before we start 'entertaining' ourselves with spectacles that would make the ancient Romans turn away.
I remember forty years ago when we as a nation watched aghast as Clive James showed clips of Endurance', a Japanese game show where contestants were tortured for the entertainment of the viewing masses, and he quite rightly pointed out that this was a hugely horrible way to offer something disguised as amusement for anyone who was disturtbed enough to find entertainment in it. We all put it down to a fundamental cruelty in the Japanese psyche, and nodded that we are very very different in the West.
Now, we have exactly the same thing, except without even the poor excuse of offering money prizes to unknowns - we have it with rich 'celebrities' being paid fees to humilaite themselves for the edification of the viewing public.
What sort of a viewing nation have we become where making people ill is seen as entertainment? If we have slid down that path in a mere forty years, what sort of a dystopian future are we headed for?
Are we going to torture animals for amusement? Oh, I forgot, we've already done that in this horrible programme - but because the creatures concerned do not make any noise when eaten alive, and are not judged attractive enough for anyone to disgusted at their treatment, only their appearence.
I honestly think we have to have a serious look at what sort of a culture we are turning into, and maybe think about stopping this nonsense, however popular it may be.
Popularity is simply not justification for this kind of programme - let's be honest, you could produce a show of bear baiting and it would achieve an audience.
Time to stop pandering to the worst in people, before we start 'entertaining' ourselves with spectacles that would make the ancient Romans turn away.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.I agree. I posted this on another thread in October:
"I wonder what Clive James would make of today's UK tv programmes?
I loved his show mocking bizarre and dreadful tv programmes from around the world and now the UK broadcasters have embraced them.
We are in no position to criticise the USA or any other country these days for what counts as tv entertainment"
I have watched 30 minutes of one episode of I'm a Celeb and that was more than enough. There are many programmes made by British producers that I will not watch because I believe them to be cruel, humiliating or both and yet some of them seem very popular.
There is nowt so strange as folk
"I wonder what Clive James would make of today's UK tv programmes?
I loved his show mocking bizarre and dreadful tv programmes from around the world and now the UK broadcasters have embraced them.
We are in no position to criticise the USA or any other country these days for what counts as tv entertainment"
I have watched 30 minutes of one episode of I'm a Celeb and that was more than enough. There are many programmes made by British producers that I will not watch because I believe them to be cruel, humiliating or both and yet some of them seem very popular.
There is nowt so strange as folk
douglas - // The public gets what the public wants as someone once screeched. //
That's true - up to a point.
The public 'wants' to be able to smoke in public, the public 'wants' to be able to drink and drive ... the list goes on.
Just because something has a market that gives it monetary value is not sufficient in and of itself to mean that it is offered.
As a society, we owe it to ourselves to see what is simply not acceptable to a civilised culture and, although we cannot prevent it from finding an outlet, becuase anything will if sufficient demand is there, we can draw the line at offering it for prime-time entertainment on our telvisions.
That's true - up to a point.
The public 'wants' to be able to smoke in public, the public 'wants' to be able to drink and drive ... the list goes on.
Just because something has a market that gives it monetary value is not sufficient in and of itself to mean that it is offered.
As a society, we owe it to ourselves to see what is simply not acceptable to a civilised culture and, although we cannot prevent it from finding an outlet, becuase anything will if sufficient demand is there, we can draw the line at offering it for prime-time entertainment on our telvisions.
Barmaid - // I wonder if you would make an exception in respect of Gloria?! lol //
No, I have to confirm that even my accepted distate for Ms Hunniford's approach to bereavement, it would never extend to watching her willingly parade herself for physical pain and ritual humiliation for the watching enjoyment of millions.
I don't dislike her that much!!!!
No, I have to confirm that even my accepted distate for Ms Hunniford's approach to bereavement, it would never extend to watching her willingly parade herself for physical pain and ritual humiliation for the watching enjoyment of millions.
I don't dislike her that much!!!!
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I watched bits when it first came on as I wondered what the interactions between contestants would be like. But it was extremely uncomfortable viewing...not just for the nasty and disgusting tasks people were made to do. And I gather it's worse now. I just don't understand why anyone puts themselves through participating or watching.
Is there something in human nature that allows some to enjoy it?
Is there something in human nature that allows some to enjoy it?
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