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I am stuck trying to find details of my great-great-grandparents.
The only census I can find any mention of them together as a family is in the 1871 census when they are in York.......details as follows.
Daniel Lawler born c1829 Birmingham Shoemaker (my gggrandad who died in 1876)
Ann his wife born in Belfast (I can't tell from the 1871 census if she was 36 or 30 on the original transcript) On their daughter Ann's birth certificate she is shown as Ann Savage formerly known as Ryan.
Also on the census is Mary Lawler born c1861 in Newcastle, James Lawler born c1867 in Newcastle., and Annie Lawler (my great-grandma) born 1869 in York.
I cannot find any trace of them before 1871 including birth or marriage records, but think Ann may have been married before (hence the 2 names) and given the gap in the children's ages Mary, or indeed James, may not have been Daniel's child.
Daniel died in York in 1876 and I cannot find any trace of his widow or children on the 1881 census, my great-grandma only shows in the 1891 census after she had married my great-grandad.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I have looked at this so many times I'm completely lost.
The only census I can find any mention of them together as a family is in the 1871 census when they are in York.......details as follows.
Daniel Lawler born c1829 Birmingham Shoemaker (my gggrandad who died in 1876)
Ann his wife born in Belfast (I can't tell from the 1871 census if she was 36 or 30 on the original transcript) On their daughter Ann's birth certificate she is shown as Ann Savage formerly known as Ryan.
Also on the census is Mary Lawler born c1861 in Newcastle, James Lawler born c1867 in Newcastle., and Annie Lawler (my great-grandma) born 1869 in York.
I cannot find any trace of them before 1871 including birth or marriage records, but think Ann may have been married before (hence the 2 names) and given the gap in the children's ages Mary, or indeed James, may not have been Daniel's child.
Daniel died in York in 1876 and I cannot find any trace of his widow or children on the 1881 census, my great-grandma only shows in the 1891 census after she had married my great-grandad.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I have looked at this so many times I'm completely lost.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.ahhh right, this annie lawler has a father daniel lawler and she is born 1869 but she marries near Sheffield. coincidence I guess.
anyway, I've just found John Daniel Lowlar (sic) on the 1891 census lodging at 6, St John Place , All saints Peasholm York, he is 19 a railway worker, and also lodging there is James Lowlar (sic) aged 23 also a railway worker, both born York.
anyway, I've just found John Daniel Lowlar (sic) on the 1891 census lodging at 6, St John Place , All saints Peasholm York, he is 19 a railway worker, and also lodging there is James Lowlar (sic) aged 23 also a railway worker, both born York.
Right dot, I've ordered John Daniel's and I've taken a punt at one for a James Lawlor born in Newcastle in 1871, I know he's put York in a couple of censuses but I can't find a corresponding birth in York. I'll have another look when I get all 3 certificates through. Thank you very much for your help so far.
sz been t asdas! It lks like you'll be ok with that one then, you can put confirming details on the order can't you, they still take some fee, but it's that bit more expensive now , did you read my post the other day? My order for 2 death certs last week took just 5 days and I ordered them the saturday of the bank holiday weekend, so yours should be quite quick.