If You Are A Healthy Middle-Aged Male And English Is Your First Language, Don't Expect The Same Service From The Met.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/don-t-expect-police-to-come-out-after-a-crime-if-you-re-healthy-middleaged-and-speak-good-english-a3619956.html

In fact if you are an vulnerable elderly male, don't expect the same service as a vulnerable elderly female.

/// “It’s absolutely feasible as we go forward that if my neighbour is a vulnerable elderly person who has experienced a particular type of crime, that 'SHE' gets a face-to-face service that I don’t get. So we triage things... we assess people’s vulnerability. ///

[THECORBYLOON]

He was comparing the service HE would get in comparison to the elderly neighbour. HE is not a vulnerable person but his neighbour may be.

[THECORBYLOON]

As with all priorities, the other non-priority cases have to be left until the priorities have been dealt with.

I am sure that with your being in his eighties, you would appreciate being treated as a higher priority than a victim of another similar crime who was forty.

[THECORBYLOON]

Sorry ,"your being in your eighties.."

[anotheoldgit]

Then why did he specifically say 'SHE' when he could have said 'THEY'?

[THECORBYLOON]

No idea.

[THECORBYLOON]

Would you be unhappy if you and I were victims of a similar crime but you were treated as a priority only because you are a few decades older than I am?

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

Everyone should be treated equally.

None of this ticking certain boxes to prove priority.

[Mamyalynne]

When any service or situation is under pressure then a triage system is essential - be it a ward full of patients, a packed waiting room in A&E,a list of Ambulance requests or as in this case reports of crimes.

When making the decision how to prioritise, you are absolutely bound to get howls of protest from those feeling hard done by.

That I'm afraid is obvious.

[dannyk13]

There has always been some form of prioritising in the police.If there was a choice between attending to a shoplifter and a robbery then the robbery would take preference, and rightly so.

[anotheoldgit]

Mamyalynne

Then perhaps:

How long have you lived in the UK?

How long have you paid into the NHS?

No I can't see that working, that's why I said everyone should be treated equally.

By your reasoning if someone needed life saving treatment the elderly would be put at the back of the list, since they had enjoyed a good innings anyway.

[anotheoldgit]

dannyk13

Obviously the scale of the crime committed would always be prioritised.

But not possessing English as one's first language should not be a reason for prioritising.

[Mamyalynne]

//By your reasoning if someone needed life saving treatment the elderly would be put at the back of the list, since they had enjoyed a good innings anyway.//


I would love to know how you extracted that from my response - it is not how a triage system works.

I rather suspect you knew that though.

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, imagine you and I have been burgled and the police can allow only one of their officers to visit one of us. How should they decide which if us to visit? Toss a coin or pick a name out of a hat?

Although we may both we should each each receive equal treatment, I would understand if they went to you first because they believed you to be vulnerable.

[THECORBYLOON]

My writing skills are lacking to-day, "Although we may both believe..."

[kvalidir]

Frankly I would expect the elderly, children, mentally and physically disabled to ALWAYS take priority over me, and I'm quite happy with that, not sure why anyone wouldn't be in a civilised society.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - I read this as well, and was fully expecting a post from you on the subject.

If you would care to re-read it, you will see that this is a 'proposal' - in other words, it's an idea, something someone is thinking, but that is a universe away from it actually happening.

The Mail has jumped on it because it knows full well that if it words its piece carefully, and doesn't draw attention to the 'proposal' aspect of this guff, its readers will be delighted to get their trolleys in a twist because migrants are getting one over on the indigenous population again.

Anyone reading it with an ounce of detachment can clearly see it for what it is, poking the Middle England bear, which is so easy, it makes for slack journalism in the silly season.

It's nonsense, it's a puff piece, and the Pavlovian response has duly happened.

Next week, read about Andy Hughes's 'proposal' to date Kylie Minogue!!!

[THECORBYLOON]

"Obviously the scale of the crime committed would always be prioritised."

If there are multiple victims of the same serious type of crime but not enough officers to deal with them immediately, how are the police to decide where to place their limited resources.

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

/// ANOTHEOLDGIT, imagine you and I have been burgled and the police can allow only one of their officers to visit one of us. How should they decide which if us to visit? Toss a coin or pick a name out of a hat? ///

It would matter not, since the crime had already been committed.

[Peter Pedant]

Oh girl up for chrissakes !

//Everyone should be treated equally.
None of this ticking certain boxes to prove priority.//

in an age of falling budgets and value of money ( probably directly due to Brexit that you voted so exitedly for AOG)
you have to prioritise - so yes the little old lady down the road being murdered may well get sooner attenntion than you whining as usual about kids kicking their footballs around

it is a fact of life

Hey AOG - Notting hill is still on !
surely you wish to go down there and carry out .... research ?