What If ?

[whiskeryron]

What if the Salisbury Assassination attempt is a plot set up by a yet unknown Organisation to discredit Russia & cause trouble between Russia & the UK ?. And now the news is that another ex Russian has been found murdered ln this country. It seems rather odd to me that it is all happening when President Putin is shortly to stand for a pre ordained re election. Whatever you think of Putin he is very far from being an idiot. Russia has many enemies & it would not be difficult to set something like this up. I have very uneasy feelings about the whole shebang. I welcome your thoughts on this.

[Zacs-Master]

Holy Jesus. Some people never grow out of 6th form debating do they. Jahulay (or whatever her name is) will be along shortly to side with you.

[jno]

If Russians think the rest of the world is picking on them unfairly they might be more inclined to re-elect their strongman leader even if he's the reason they're being singled out in the first place.

[Jahulaye]

Ron, you’ve hit the nail on the head.

If you follow my post trail you will see that this is the exact theory that me and many others on the web are following with a keen eye.

[Old_Geezer]

It'd have to be an insane plot then. Folk rally to support their leader if others are being critical, regardless of how justified that criticism. It would be more likely to be a Russian plot to get him reelected than replaced. But most likely neither, although elections may be a factor in the timing of the crime.

[Sqad]

The evidence: we are not privy to the evidence, only the media reports and based on these, the evidence is irrefutable pointing to Russia.
However.......in the back of one's mind.......one does wonder.

[ichkeria]

You need to understand what is happening at the moment in Russia to see that far from being discredited Putin is actually gaining in support for all this. People either say ‘well done for at least trying to kill a traitor’ or ‘how dare they falsely accuse us’
Either way it’s triggered new interest in a moribund election campaign. Having said that it’s hard to know if that was the intention.
But I’ve tried to follow the science in this and from what chemists day it would be exceptionally difficult to replicate the agent used in this attack (quite apart from the highly unlikely motive). Indeed it is more than possible that the original solvents used in the preparation of this (rare fusing of nitrogen and phosphorus) can be geographically pinned down.

[sevenOP]

Many enemies indeed
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/skripal-russian-web-or-rusi-web

[Peter Pedant]

You know I thinkh you are all right

Julius Malema - the marxist fire brand in South Africa - he favours nationalisation of land ( no not in the Ukraine ) has undoubtedly teamed up with an unknown Miss X perhaps Princess Di to discredit MI5.
After all they DID try to kill her - MI 5 , Miss X I mean, er Princess Di

at least one of them is dead - you counter
no that's what they WANT you to believe
everyone knows she is on the Moon married to Elvis

[Peter Pedant]

// and from what chemists day it would be exceptionally difficult to replicate the agent used in this attack (quite apart from the highly unlikely motive).//

that is what they said about Sarin and Tokyo - it cd not possibly be a back yard job. It was.

I dont wish to argue Putin's side

as for Military Grade - does anyone have the image of Pike from Dads Army being the military man involved ?

[ToraToraTora]

Occams razor the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. All this conspiracy theory cobras is ridiculous.

[ichkeria]

It is exactly that tora. Furthermore if and hopefully when they track the likely suspects they will have even less of a leg to stand on.
Conspiracy theorists will always have an answer for everything tho: when Litvinenko was murdered there was a polonium trace from London all the way to Moscow and everywhere in between that Lugovoy had been. And yet it didn’t dampen the enthusiasm of the ‘we’re all being lied to brigade’ not stop the Russians continually denying it.

[Jackdaw33]

Precisely, TTT.

[Jahulaye]

The “Russians” may have indeed done it but a lone wolf or small organisation unbeknown to Putin and the Kremlin, maybe a small group of ex spies/ kgb members who were betrayed by Skripal and felt betrayed by Putin when he took no action.