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Any serious history buffs out there?
At the age of 9, when the BBC news was always on, I clearly remember an afternoon news bulletin of the end of the battle reporting that Hitler had sent a message to Stalin asking / demanding that after the war all prisoners would be allowed to return to their homeland. This has never seemed logical to me and I wonder if it was propaganda?
On Boxing Day, after the Scharnhorst was sunk the BBC reported in words, obviously not now remembered clearly, that Hitler had been persuaded to let the battleship go to sea hoping for a great Christmas victory. How could this have been known; I suspect it too was propaganda.
At the age of 9, when the BBC news was always on, I clearly remember an afternoon news bulletin of the end of the battle reporting that Hitler had sent a message to Stalin asking / demanding that after the war all prisoners would be allowed to return to their homeland. This has never seemed logical to me and I wonder if it was propaganda?
On Boxing Day, after the Scharnhorst was sunk the BBC reported in words, obviously not now remembered clearly, that Hitler had been persuaded to let the battleship go to sea hoping for a great Christmas victory. How could this have been known; I suspect it too was propaganda.
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Tora Tora Tora, I'm not sure who you are addressing your question to.
For my part it is simply a matter of whether or not Hitler issued such a demand.
As for the return of German prisoners from Russia, only a very small proportion survived to make the journey. Then, as now, the Russians care little about life.
A lighthearted puzzle.
Changing one letter every line, how many would it take to change
HITLER
into
PUTRID.
For my part it is simply a matter of whether or not Hitler issued such a demand.
As for the return of German prisoners from Russia, only a very small proportion survived to make the journey. Then, as now, the Russians care little about life.
A lighthearted puzzle.
Changing one letter every line, how many would it take to change
HITLER
into
PUTRID.
My only interest in this is still that of my original question.
For those who believe that all prisoners of the Germans in WWII were subject to the sort of treatment meted out to UK forces should read this, and other articles linked in blue.
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For those who believe that all prisoners of the Germans in WWII were subject to the sort of treatment meted out to UK forces should read this, and other articles linked in blue.
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Any serious history buffs out there?
Nope - this is AB for chrissakes ! ter daah
Soviet Russia had NOT signed the relevant Geneva convention and so the Germans treated the million or so Soviet POWs terribly badly- and so did the soviets after stalingrad - I think remember this is AB, 250 000 surrendered and 25 000 made it back
The German prisoners were charged with war crimes and usually got 10 y hard labour - AND that - their return in 1955 led to the widespread unrest ( brutally put down again) such as the riots in Hungary. They found there was no socialist paradise and things were as had as when they went into the labour camps ten years previously
er what was the question ?
Dien Bien Phu 1952 - the French forces surrendered to the viets - 25000 - and they tried to kill all of them - I think only a few hundred survived. Marched them up and down the country and didnt feed them
Nope - this is AB for chrissakes ! ter daah
Soviet Russia had NOT signed the relevant Geneva convention and so the Germans treated the million or so Soviet POWs terribly badly- and so did the soviets after stalingrad - I think remember this is AB, 250 000 surrendered and 25 000 made it back
The German prisoners were charged with war crimes and usually got 10 y hard labour - AND that - their return in 1955 led to the widespread unrest ( brutally put down again) such as the riots in Hungary. They found there was no socialist paradise and things were as had as when they went into the labour camps ten years previously
er what was the question ?
Dien Bien Phu 1952 - the French forces surrendered to the viets - 25000 - and they tried to kill all of them - I think only a few hundred survived. Marched them up and down the country and didnt feed them
yes but why is it "not logical" to repatriate POWs after a war?
read a bit of history and dont go into automatic question mode: "why day do dat den?" Give yourself a rest
The German mal-treatment of the Russians are well documented because ( as sqad commented) the victors write the histories
Russian maltreatment - Gulag archipelago, Day in the life....
The German officer who saves the pianist in The Pianist gets 10 y for war crimes, and dies in 1952. in a soviet gulag
Historically, the humane tmt of prisoners only really starts after Solferino 1862. ACS, they hang one of the confederate prison governors 1866. 1914 - The Beast of Minden,
read a bit of history and dont go into automatic question mode: "why day do dat den?" Give yourself a rest
The German mal-treatment of the Russians are well documented because ( as sqad commented) the victors write the histories
Russian maltreatment - Gulag archipelago, Day in the life....
The German officer who saves the pianist in The Pianist gets 10 y for war crimes, and dies in 1952. in a soviet gulag
Historically, the humane tmt of prisoners only really starts after Solferino 1862. ACS, they hang one of the confederate prison governors 1866. 1914 - The Beast of Minden,
// For those who believe that all prisoners of the Germans in WWII were subject to the sort of treatment meted out to UK forces //
I still dont know what the original question is
Post war no one was in doubt about the concentration camp system and the protection given to Allied POWs. Huge numbers of eastern european were rendered stateless ( now unlawful see Shamira begum stc) and they werent quiet about the advantages of being liberated by the Nazis
I still dont know what the original question is
Post war no one was in doubt about the concentration camp system and the protection given to Allied POWs. Huge numbers of eastern european were rendered stateless ( now unlawful see Shamira begum stc) and they werent quiet about the advantages of being liberated by the Nazis
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