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larabell | 19:31 Tue 25th May 2004 | History
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I was surprised to hear so many people praise this film. I thought the script and casting were awful and I was astounded by how many huge liberties they took with the story. Any lazy students relying on this to cheat on papers on the Iliad/Odyssey will fail miserably. What did everyone else think? I am the only one who thought it was disappointing?
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Not many Hollywood films follow the book exactly.Artistic licence and all that.Who's to say the Iliad/Odyssey is a true account of what happened and not just fiction.As everyone knows anyway the war was between The Celts and The Trojans(A loose amalgamation of states) and occured in East Anglia for control of the Tin and Lead mines in Cornwall.Tin was highly prized, as when added to Copper,Bronze is the result and this was the start of the Bronze Age.Well I think it's a good theory anyway.
I too was disappointed. So much so that I eventually gave up and walked out with still an hour to go. I wasn't the only one. A couple walked out before me. I realise I'd have missed the wooden horse and the big battle, but I wasn't going to sit through a plodeding hour just to see that. Pretty boy Brad Pitt wass hopeless as Achilles. I couldn't take him seriously as a hero or leader. The part should have been given to Russel Crowe or Liam Neeson. Orlando Bloom as Paris was also miscast. And the characters - Achilles was arrogant and Paris a pathetic boy. I thought it was going to be like Anthony and Cleopatra, with Helen and Paris as the main characters. In this film, Helen and Paris were lesser characters, indeed silly kids. The main characters in the movie were Hector and Achilles, and I've said enough about 'Pitt the Younger' and his boyish Achilles.
It's difficult to make a hostorical film with any degree of accuracy, while adhering to the notion of bums on seats. I enjoyed it as a yarn, (very) losly connected to a classic Greek legend. I never worry too much about casting, but i did think Brad Pitt was believable as Achilles, and I think he does nothing at all to play up to his 'handsome' image in any of his films, and avoided doing so here, to his credit.
I have read and heard numerous bad reviews and opinions about it, but I reckon I will still go and see it (I haven't yet) on the basis that the badness of the film is probably outweighed by the gorgeousness of Brad Pitt's thighs.
I heard that Brad Pitt had a body double for his thighs
Oh really? If his thighs body-double is Matt Damon, that would be even better.
well it gave me the biggest laugh I've had in ages - what a wasted opportunity, fabulous locations, enormous special effects budget, amazing fight scenes - and completely laughable dialogue delivered by inadequate actors (exceptions for Peter O'Toole and Brian Cox - can't believe they agreed to speak the rubbish!). I was laughing out loud, and so were plenty of other people.
I thought troy was terrible. As an adaptation of an epic it failed and did not capture the darkness that the Iliad portrays. In terms of characters Achilles was awful, far too hetrosexual although his arrogance was about right. Orlando Bloom did a really good Paris and that is how the character (in my opinion) was meant to be. Eric Bana was great and, in the same way that Hector is the true hero of the Iliad, he was the true hero of the film. In terms of an action, considering how we have been spoilt in recent years (LOTRs, Gladiator etc) it would have been hard for this to compete and it didnt. Rather than raise the bar it, the scenes were an amalganation of Return of the King, Gladiator and even Saving Private Ryan (storming the beach scene) and, gasp, the Scorpian King (the temple at the end and firing arrows etc). Im afraid that this film could have either been an epic adaptation with emphasis on deep dark characters or a kiss ass action movie that set new standards (with its budget we would be justified in wanting that) unfortunately, caught between the two, it couldnt find its true nature and became neither. At least that's my opinion.
I saw Troy yesterday and thought it was great. Brad Pitt is beautiful and has an amazing body for a man of what, 40? Hector may actually be the best though, played by Eric Bana. I enjoyed the film very much and though it did not follow the story to a point, it got the basic story. Loved it!
The movie Troy was soooo innacurate it was unbelieveable!! Its was 'inspired' by Homer's Illiad apparently. The mistakes are as follows...
1) Agamemnon doesnt kill Priam - Achilles son Pyhrrus does
2) Ajax doesnt die at Troy - he goes mad and drills his brain out after
3) Menelaus doesnt die! - In fact he is in Homer's Sequel to the Illiad, The Odyssey (There are rumours that thy are palnning to do an Odyssey film so they'll need to butcher that story as well)
4) Patroclus isnt Achilles' cousin - He is his GAY lover!
5) Agamemnon doesnt die! - He get's killed by his wife (Clytaemnestra) on his return home
6) Aeneas (the guy who is given the sword at the end) was not that young - He was a General at Troy so wouldnt have been 18! See Virgil's Aeneid.
7) Achilles deatwass wrong! - He fell in love with Polyxena (not Briseis) and wanted to marry her in Apollo's temple. Paris shot a poisoned arrow (guided by Apollo) which hits his heel and kills him.
8) WHERE ARE THE GODS!! - They control most of the events in the book!! Its is a myth for crying out loud!!
9) Helen doesnt escape Troy - Menelaus (who if you remember DOESNT die) takes her back to Sparta!! (See The Odyssey).
I think ive covered most of the major mistakes that just goes to show that hollywood can severly butcher a brilliant epic story.
Does anyone else agree?

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