A strong case for reincarnation?

[MsEVP]

Cases which seem to point to personal survival after death and reincatnation not only happen in Asian countries which share the notion of rebirth, but also occur in the West. The following is from Britain. In 1942 a Dornier airplane and its German crew of 4 was shot down and crashed onto a railway in the northern town of Middlesbrough. 3 of the crew were found and buried but the wreckage of the plane carrying the 4th crewman wasn`t discovered until 1997. The place of this crash was just a few hundred yards from the spot where a young man, age 22, called Carl Edon was murdered in 1995. All his life Carl had spoken to his family and friends of flashbacks he`d been having of memories of his former life as a Nazi airman who was killed when his plane was shot down in 1942. He did his best to convince them of his reincarnation but it wasn`t until after his death that they were finally able to accept it as a truth. His experiences were documented in the local Gazette when he was just 9 yrs old. A local historian, Bill Norman, decided to investigate the matter and tracked down the family of the German airman, whose name was Heinrich Richter, in Germany. He brought back with him a photo of Richter in his uniform and when Carl`s parents saw the photo they were too stunned to speak. The resemblance to their dead son was uncanny. During the excavation of the German bomber it was discovered that Richter`s leg had been severed and was still inside his boot. Carl had often mentioned the fact that he had lost his right leg in the crash and he was born with a birthmark at the top of that leg. After all these eerie coincidences Carl`s parents had no choice but to accept that reincatnation was a reality after all. They joined 300 mourners at a moving funeral service for Richter who was 24 when he died.

[naomi24]

I sit on the fence with reincarnation, Tina. As you say, there are reported cases that are difficult to explain, so perhaps it does happen. I don't know, and since I don't know, I keep an open mind.

[Doc.Spock.1]

You really do have to stop with this garbage.

Make a good sci fi film though.

[Doc.Spock.1]

Any pictures of this one legged man ?

[Doc.Spock.1]

Hang on.

Plane crashed 1942.

Man murdered was born in 1973.

What was german doing for 31 years, looking for one-legged replacement ???

[naomi24]

Spock, dear. With all due respect, if this interests her, then why must she stop? People who aren't interested in the subject are quite at liberty to ignore it. They aren't obliged to contribute.

[puss_boots]

Fair comment, it's just that everything is heresay.

If I was going to put this out as a reality I would put more meat on the bones.

Links to piccies and documents etc.

Also the 31 year gap doesnt add up.

[naomi24]

Hi Puss, you're right, much is hearsay, but then so are a lot of things that people believe in - religion being the main one. In this case, it could simply be coincidence. Who knows? We can only look at what we perceive to be the evidence, and either dismiss it as hogwash, as Spock does, sit on the fence, as I do, or believe it, as Tina does. No one can possibly know for sure who has the right answer.

[MsEVP]

Here`s a good link:

http://www.communigate.co.uk/me/slaggyisland/p age11.phtml

[naomi24]

Your link isn't working Tina.

[MsEVP]

If you look at Numbers 8, 12, and 67 will give you the whole story including the comparison photos of Carl and Heinrich.

Sorry, I don`t know how to give links unless by typing them in letter by letter.

Puss, not sure where the 31 yr gap is

Naomi, nice to see you

[MsEVP]

Sorry, it`s ne (not me) short for north east

[MsEVP]

again:

http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/slaggyisland/p age11.phtml

[naomi24]

Tina, just highlight your link address, then right click and copy, then go into your post in AB and right click and paste it.

[naomi24]

Sorry, meant to say your last link works.

[chakka35]

Who's Tina?

[naomi24]

Tina is MsEVP, Chakka.

[chakka35]

Oh.

How disappointing.

I have always held the irrational view (irrational? me?) that, in general, women have more commonsense than men. I therefore assumed that the MsEVP who posted such nonsense on the Science site concerning the Hutchinson effect was a man. Wrong again.

naomi, once again you seem to be taking your 'keep an open mind about everything, however daft' attitude to extremes. I've bored you before about this - that it is a form of intellectual laziness. The intelligence that evolution gave us enables us to weigh evidence, make assessments and come to reasonable conclusions. If you did that you couldn't possibly sit on the fence regarding reincarnation. (Have you finished the quiz?)

[naomi24]

Chakka, intellectual laziness? Me? Wash your mouth out!! (Gin should do the trick quite nicely). As I've said before, unless we have solid proof that something is fact, then, logically, we can only say we don't know the answer. I want to know the answers, and I do weigh the evidence, but if that is inconclusive, settling for a �reasonable conclusion� is what amounts to intellectual laziness (Occam's Razor rears its head again), since there's a possibility that what might be presumed to be reasonable today may prove to be totally incorrect tomorrow. If I don't have the answer, I'm not going to invent it by accepting any conclusion, reasonable or otherwise, and therefore I have no alterative but to keep an open mind.

I'll look at the thread in Science you mentioned later - and possibly throw in my two-pennorth.

(Yes, I�ve finished. Have you? I'm feeling quietly confident, but am probably just about to fall flat on my face!). :o/

[MsEVP]

Naomi, thanks for the link help. I`ll do it next time.

Let others say what they may, but I basically post these type of anomalous pieces for those who are genuinely interested and may not have come across them, like Vibrasphere.