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Hello again Gonzo00. Well it certainly isn't for that sort of thing anyway. I'm getting some good results now. The first thing that comes to mind that I want to make is bespoke speaker stands, with spikes at the base, that can hold a 15kg load at a particular height. But, I'm just into this sort of thing anyway and it's good to add a new string to my bow so it's there when I need it. Re: your journeyman friend. It's so true; we should never be so arrogant to think we know it all - we are, and should think of it this way, always learning, no matter how experienced we think we are.