Ours' is now about seven years old and looks just like the tree in chris's second photo second photo.It's on some dwarf stock and stands about eight feet high.It crops quite well,for instance last year we had enough for two gallons of wine and loads to eat.It also pays to make a net cage as we found out the first year it fruited,every thing was going going along quite nicely the fruit was almost ready to pick when every Bullfinch in the county arrived for tea and by the time got outside to scare the *** off all we had left was a patio covered in pips.