The Myth Of "The Special Relationship"

10ClarionSt | 08:57 Fri 08th Nov 2024 | News

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At various times throughout the US election, we've heard mention of something called "The Special Relationship". We've heard it before, of course, but just what is it? What relationship? Why special?

There was no relationship whatsoever prior to WW2. When the US and GB became allies after the US declared war on Germany, the US wanted access to all code breaking systems and methods that GB had. Churchill wasn't in favour of giving the US access to "Ultra" and Bletchley Park but he knew we needed the US for virtually everything, materials, fuel, arms, food, so he reluctantly allowed the US to have access.

That's where "The Special Relationship" began. It didn't exist beforehand and in fact, the US had put together a plan in the 1930's called Warplan Red, which was a theoretical war between the USA and Great Britain, which involved America invading Canada and British Carribean territories.

Where is this "Special Relationship" now? What do we get from it? Especially in the wake of Brexit? Ask any American about it and they don't know what you're talking about. And before you ask, yes, I have spoken to some Americans about it. They'd never heard of it. You Brits! You don't half think you're important, don't you?! 😄

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ToraToraTora

....and breath, why do you stay here if you hate your country so much?

johnny.5

Donald Trump has had many special relationships

Am I Right ?

I'm Not Wrong !

10ClarionSt

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TTT, are you on the wrong thread? The last part of my OP is Americans talking, not me. I know. I know. I posted it, but it's the Yanks that said it.

johnny.5

Are most Americans basically British decedants anyhow?

10ClarionSt

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Possibly but I think there's lots from other countries too. Don't know if British decendants are in the majority though.

youngmafbog

//Ask any American about it and they don't know what you're talking about.//

Not true.

//yes, I have spoken to some Americans about it.//

Ah, you spoke to 300 odd million of them did you or just a couple of rednecks you bumped into in a bar?

davebro3

the USA was also involved in WW1

youngmafbog

The "Special realationship" really is only about intelligence and military. Yes we are small fry and I'm sure the USA could manage without us but they do train their forces with ours jst as we do with theirs.

10ClarionSt

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US involvement in WW1 was started by their war with Mexico. Maximillian was German and Mexico was allied to Germany because of that, so the US declared war on Germany. It had nothing to do with supporting European countries.

youngmafbog

They still supported, and freed, European countries.

ToraToraTora

09:03 ....and you are revelling in it.

10ClarionSt

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Nah. Not at all. I'm a true patriot! This Sunday, I will be marching past The Cenotaph in Whitehall, along with thousands of others, to remember our brave servicemen who gave their lives for this country. I will will be in Column A. Our number is A41, actually. I'd give you a wave but it's not allowed. We will remember them.