caravan on land

[dizzyjo]

own land want to live on it

[lslowry]

Will tarmac be used Dizzy

[NazNomad]

http://www.theanswerb...w/Question422131.html

[Buenchico]

Living in a caravan, on your own land, for a period exceeding 28 days normally requires planning permission for 'change of use' of the land.

Please refer to my answer here:
http://www.theanswerb...n/Question224524.html
(If you refer to my Hansard link, click 'Previous Section' to see the start of the relevant parliamentary question).

Chris

[dizzyjo]

we own our land and sell our eggs/goats milk and the bacon!we rent stables out and also live in the caravan for 2 months when my horse is foaling.but we cant live there permantly! why??? can any one get to the bottom of what seems to be a fuzzy grey area'd question on every ones lips?????? me and Dizz are as self sufficient as we can be but cant get on the property ladder in this area that i grew up,went to school,work,live in a council house and have brought my son up,he goes to my old primary school!! why cant i live off my land????? thanks for any advice xx

[hc4361]

Because living on the land changes the use. Change of use to residential means planning permission could be sought for a house. One house equals a housing estate on the field in next to no time - the offers you get from builders will blow your mind.

[dizzyjo]

how do you go about getting change of use,what does it cost and what is the best approach??? i want to run a livery yard well am doing it, but not as a buissness which comes down to security that i cant offer! thanks x

[boxtops]

You have to go to your local district council planning office - depends where you live but you need to apply for change of use, fill in forms - it gets published publicly in case there are objections. Sorry but no idea how much this sort of planning application would cost, they'll tell you.

[Buenchico]

An application for planning permission would probably cost you £335:
http://www.planningpo...ish_fees-feb_2010.pdf
You have to pay that whether the application is accepted or refused.

Most councils will almost automatically refuse an application to change the use of land from 'agricultural' (or similar) to 'residential' unless the land is within an area designated for residential development. Many travellers have bought land in rural areas with the intention of the siting their own caravans on that land. In nearly every case the local authority has ruled that living in a caravan on that land (without the planning permission which they'd not normally grant) contravenes the Town and Country Planning Acts. The travellers have been forced to remove their caravans and to return the land to its former condition (by, for example, removing any hard standing or mains services which have been installed).

Chris

[dizzyjo]

what if there is all ready an excisting building/derelict and hard standing and caravan all ready there and has been for 25 years???? i was going too,( should it ever happen!!) use lapping wood to disguise the caravan aswell,my stables and barn are coverd with it too!!

[Buenchico]

Your planned use of the land would be 'residential' which is not the same as 'agricultural'. i.e. it's not the PRESENCE of buildings upon the land which is relevant, but the USE to which those buildings are put. (Anyone wanting to create a residential dwelling from a 'barn conversion' has to apply for planning permission, even though it will still be the same building on the land).

Be wary of trying to hide a residential property on non-residential land. It could turn out to be expensive if things go wrong!
http://www.guardian.c...e-haystack-demolition

Chris

[buildersmate]

Existence of non-residential or delerict building on the site doesn't change the price of fish. You are still wanting to change the use from an agricultural barn to residential.
If getting planning consent in the countryside was that easy, everyone would be at it.
Sorry, but you stand very little chance of succeeding with this scheme.
Having a few goats and claiming self-sufficiency cuts no ice either - if you are claiming to be running an agricultural business that requires you to live in the site, you will need to show much more of a viable business plan - it can be done, but you will need more than that.