Is it just me thats dosent understand the squaters rights?

[trt]

http://www.dailymail....tters-leave-home.html

If you force a door or window to enter a property, surely that's breaking and entering, so why are these people not arrested for breaking the law?

[starone]

I am not sure of this trt but I think if they can get in without forcing a door or breaking and entering, they can do so with impunity. So that if you have inadvertently left a door unlocked or a window slightly open so that it can be used as an entrance then you cannot do anything if someone decides to live in your house. I cannot understand it either - I was always under the impression that an Englishman's home was his castle.

[trt]

Yes very confusing Star,

so if I go to the shops for an hour and leave a window open for a bit of fresh air they can take over my house and I have no rights? what a joke!

[craft1948]

It must be one of the few things the americans have got right. Apparently they have something called Castles Law (I think) where you can use whatever force you feel necessary if someone invades your home.

[Answerprancer]

Yes Craft - including killing them. Hmm :-/

[joko]

so what about car jacking?

or hijack?

these are not done by breaking into the vehicle...does that mean the person is allowed to just have the property?

[craft1948]

Well obviously that's a last resort..........

[joko]

i might move into a department store...ill have all i want at my fingertips...for free because its all in my new home!

[Answerprancer]

Screw the Daily Mail and its 'fact' twisting.
Little wonder there are people who are forced to resort to squatting with today's housing waiting lists and financial situation, especially when you take these figures into account:
Between 30-50% of the land in Britain is not registered with the Land registry.
Only 10% of Britain is covered (urban)
90% of people live in an urban area.
74% of the population own no property at all.
Less than 1% of the population own 70% of the land.
41,000 estates own 50% of Britain.
Sure there may be 'squatters' and 'squatters' but I see NOTHING morally wrong whatsoever in a bunch of homeless folks breaking into a derelict building in order to take shelter.

[starone]

I agree with you AP - you are quite right, but I do not agree with squatters breaking into, or even just entering, a building which is obviously someone's home. As an instance, I am in the process of buying a bungalow which I am looking forward to making my new home. At the moment it is empty. What would I do if I came to move in and discovered it was occupied by complete strangers and that I had no home?

[Answerprancer]

That's what I meant by 'squatters' and 'squatters' - I was differentiating between the two.

[trt]

We are not discussing about a bunch of homeless folks breaking into a derelict building in order to take shelter.

We are talking about the people who leave their house/property for a few hours or days and these lazy, idle scumbag basturds moving in?????

[Answerprancer]

"We" are also talking about "facts" gathered from the Daily Mail that has a proven track record of twisting things to make them look like what they are not.

[craft1948]

What part of this couple completed the sale of the home on the 23rd August has been twisted?

[trt]

Answerprancer,
So the news of the trashed home of Julia High, which was overtaken by Romanian squatters was made up?,

It was on TV and in all papers!!!!!!

Who side are you on?

[Answerprancer]

It's more about 'what they leave out' when the Daily Excrement do their stuff. Any one of a number of things could make this story a 'twisted' one and If you want me to give examples Craft, that could get complicated.

[craft1948]

Well all I can say is that if something like that happened to me the law would not be my first recourse............

[Answerprancer]

Don't jump to conclusions and make it look as if I have said things I didn't trt (LOL, are you on the DM editorial team?!)
I DID NOT say that the Daily Mail 'make things up' it's far more insideous than that, they leave things out and twist facts in order to feed people who *get off* on being angry - I'm on the side of fellow DM haters.

[starone]

Most newspapers are sensationalists and make things much worse than they really are. Strange looking pair aren't they (good job this is anonymous or I wouldn't be able to say this). <looks guiltily over shoulder and searches in drawer for a scarf to cover face>
The picture at the bottom of the lady whose house had been completely trashed was rather sad, I thought.

[starone]

I'm sure I could get a few of 'the boys' in craft, or perhaps someone knows the address of rent-a-mob.

[craft1948]

lol Star he does look a bit "Shipmanish"............