staircase Vs big furniture nightmare

[bednobs]

hi, i have a double winder staircase which looke like this except the other way round
http://www.google.co....%26prmd%3Divns&itbs=1
Owing to SOMEONE not measuring properly before ordering furniture i need to take the hanrail and posts out of the bit that goes up against the wall (we have an RSJ in the way of getting the wardrobe up the first few steps and round) How do i do it? there was a little round "hole" covered up, which i removed and took a dowel out on the equivalent of the post on the right hand side of that picture, but that hasn't done anything at all - i cant lift the handrail off to remove the spindles and i took the top of the newell post off to see if you could access it from the top, but 1) broke the top bit and 2) found out it was just a decorative glued on bit, affording no access to the inside. help

[The Builder]

Bedds, the dowel is usually there to cover a screw, probably pozi-drive (crosshead).
Poke about in there first. Look for any other ones too.
Come back if that's no help

[bednobs]

thanks builder i took a screw out and nothing happened :(

[The Builder]

The joints will be tight, Beds. Driven into place with a mallet........ also probably glued.
Which bit do you want to remove? The handrail? Maybe the newell post and the balusters?

[bednobs]

i *think* we will only need to remove the handrail and spindles

[The Builder]

If it's like the arrangement in the pic, the handrail is let into the side of the newell at one end, and into the side of the half-newell at the other end. The problem is that the newells would have to be "spread" to take the handrail out.

Here goes ............ you've removed a screw in the main newell. That should leave a metal bracket in it when the h/rail is removed.
I would have to resort to sawing (fine cut saw) where the h/rail slots into the half newell against the wall ........... actually sawing through the tenon (end of the h/rail).
Then lift the h/rail and pull it out of the main newell ......... leaving the spindles behind. Brute force if it's glued :o(
Any good so far?

[HowardKennitby]

Can you not dismantle or reduce the wardrobe at all?

[bednobs]

ok, thanks for these very useful answers. I think that we will give up and employ the services of a professional to actually do it. (when i have said "I" in my post, i of course mean mr bednobs. As he cant be trusted to even measure properly, i don't think he can be trusted with a saw!
The wardrobe is solid and we have already reduced as much as possible by taking the doors off

[The Builder]

Sorry Beds ............. wish I could have made it easier :o(

[annie0000]

It's times like this that flat pack furniture starts to look attractive...!!

[The Builder]

Between you and me, Annie, I hate furniture! I always build wardrobes in :o)

[bednobs]

this is my first non-flat pack furniture. After all, i am a grown up now!

[mrs_overall]

Sorry to interrupt here but I just wanted to say to Monsieur Le Builder that I KNEW he'd be used to handling big things lol

[The Builder]

Fair enough Beds. Sorry about your visitor (Mrs Ovary). Such smut ;o)

[annie0000]

Builder, I have built in wardrobes but they were put into the new build by the builders and they are crap. - they could with the doors replacing and fitting out properly. Bednobs - I remember my first proper furniture....it's exciting stuff and makes you feel very grown up!!

[mrs_overall]

You are welcome....mwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[Jemisa]

Because of the same problem when my daughter moved into her house my husband dismantled the wardrobe & put it back together in the bedroom.
(But my H is a carp/joiner by trade) we found it a lot easier than removing spindles etc.

jem

[ummmm]

Nice staircase...

[bednobs]

it was nice till mr bed lopped the thingy off the newell post!

[ummmm]

Men!! Just can't be trusted. They should leave it to women and let us hire someone...

[bednobs]

personally if i had my choice i would have measured properly first and ordered something appropriate. Second choice would have been to send it back and get something smaller (because we are only going to have the same problem in reverse if we ever move)