Sprung-Loaded Door Holder

[bainbrig]

I'm looking for this. A rod, pivoted at one end, sprung-loaded. Similar in function to a cabinet hinge. You push it out so it points out from a wall, and snaps open there. Then if a door hits it, the rod stays put, the door won't open any further.
To release it, you push it in against the wall (against its spring) and it springs shut against the wall, so that the door can open.

I've sort of seen similar things, I think, although I might be dreaming.

Any such things exist? Ideas please...

Billy B.

[Ratty2E]

Is this what you mean? I can't really picture what you are describing.
http://www.sdslondon.co.uk/concealed-door-closers/perko-round-plate-door-closer-max-door-weight-50kg.html?gclid=CPjztvbWzNQCFVIW0wodgZ8KHg&gclsrc=aw.ds

[bainbrig]

Thanks ratty. Similar.

Imagine a cabinet hinge (like you get in kitchen cupboards). Now, instead of the bit that attaches to the door, put a long rod in its place.

The shorter bit is attached to the wall in my hallway.

You pull the 'rod' away from the wall and it snaps into position at right angles to the wall.

Now, someone pushing open the front door can only push it as far as the rod.

But if I want to open the door, I push the rod against the wall, and it stays there.

Have I just invented a sprung-loaded door stop, or does it already exist?

Hope that's a bit clearer!

Billy B

[The Builder]

Something like this? ...........

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Nails-Screws-Fasteners/KICK-DOWN-GUARD-SPRUNG-BLACK-PLASTIC-SCREWS/B007KQA7AA

[bainbrig]

Thanks, The Builder. If that thing springs shut, and springs open (with a little bit of hand pressure), I could mount it on the wall rather than the door, and it would do fine. I will look into such devices.

Billy B

[bainbrig]

What I wanted was a substitute for an old-fashioned door chain. I found this which looks a better idea than my spring-loaded device.

http://www.locklatch.co.uk/features/

I have a composite front door.

Can I drill into a composite door?

Thanks.

Billy B

[The Builder]

Of course, it depends on the material used in the door. It's usually timber, so no problem there, Billy.

It it is a uPVC, or a foam material, then you may simply have to use a tight-fitting rawlplug.

[alavahalf]

Imagine someone trying to enter your property with your device attaced ... first of all regardless of how strong your rod and spring are, the instantly have a lot more leverage, as they are using the door as a lever against your device. When I used to fit security equipment after burglaries had occured. A good lock cylinder was the first thing I would fit. A proper door chain was the next deterent. A small acrylic mirror was always fitted on the wall near the chain. This allowed the occupant to open the door with the chain in the active position.. and view whoever was outside. A door viewer is always another option, which of course means you dont have to open the door at all.

[alavahalf]

Sorry .. missed a bit.
Another device I sometimes fitted ( if the floor was wooden) was a 2mm steel plate that screwed to the floor. On the plate was another longer swinging plate which had a steel rod standing up on it. This was swung into place using the foot and acted as a sturdy jamming device. Cant give you the name of a supplier as the Police gave them to me when they needed a sanctuary created.

[bainbrig]

Thanks, Builder. Useful info.

Alavahalf: thanks for those thoughts. The main reason for looking at the Locklatch was so that we could leave the door partially opened for ventilation, and the chain wouldn't do that job - I suppose what would be useful would be a sort of rigid chain - does such a thing exist?

[alavahalf]

As an alternative to chain .. I have fitted 100's of these door bars. They allow the door to be opened with thd bar in place. They are more suited to a wooden door though. On many occadions I would fit 2 on a door for extra strength.
https://www.handles4u.co.uk/products/Front+Door+Furniture/Frelan+J3003PB+-+polished+brass+door+guard/278108825?gclid=CjwKEAjw-LLKBRCdhqmwtYmX93kSJAAORDM6seshQSdhLoIabHvLvSXkv5ZJrueNJto39LyNInRlGBoCoerw_wcB

[bainbrig]

Thanks alavahalf, that might be a good compromise.

B