Under sink plug sockets?

[neddyw]

Can you install plug sockets under kitchen sinks? I didnt think you could because of the risk of water leaking on to it but I have seen several houses recently with plug sockets fitted to the inside of the kitchen sink base unit. Surely this cant be safe?

[Hairyplums]

yeah, man lots of kitchens have sockets underneath kitchen units, RCD man thats the way dont take any notice of clever sod, should be called daft sod, its all the rage, any water, the circiut trips off is 30 milli secounds, its the law man.......

[Hairyplums]

if the sink is sealed and an rcd fitted whats the prob, daft sod, you put sockets outside dont you and there rcd protected for that very reason, or IP56,55 water leaks happen every where man, thats why we brits are carefull.

[Hairyplums]

Listen man, dont bang them right under the sink, just incase the missis is a bit slap dash with the washing up, and the risk of any leak from the rising main, put them in the next unit, what are you wanting to put in?

[dilligaf]

come on man, don't stop now when it's getting interesting.

[Toleman]

How about an answer from a kitchen fitter? O Ive found one! Right when you fit a kitchen some people cant afford or don't want to pay for the switched fused spurs to go above the worktops and have the walls all chased. Im asuming your wanting a socket under the sink for a dishwasher/washing machine. We install a lot of sockets under the sink which is perfectly fine acording to regs as you need 'imediate means of isolation'. You can't just plug it in as it would require you to pull the machine out to isolate it. Its not a bodge job. Needs to be on an RCD. Also did you know its acceptable to have a socket under the bath as long as its on an rcd.

[Toleman]

Thats why I am rated 4 (1 - 4, 4 being the best) on the B&Q installer database, getting priority on kitchens to fit. Also am the top fitters for my area for Magnet and was picked to changed 3 kitchens in the Magnet showroom last year. You may know people who through kitchens in, e.g. builders But that means all kitchen fitters do?

Cleversod

Whats with all the 'DIY BODGER' answers?
Stop trying to add things, because you have been prooved wrong
Just admit you don't know what your talking about

[Toleman]

So your supposed to put switched fused spurs in even if the customer doesn't pay for them. Why don't you just burn your wages. Whats magnet's over-pricing got to do with us. Ask any kitchen fitter/ carpenter and thats how its done. What do you mean not skilled enough. I have an electrician who does the sockets and his perfectly capable of putting switched fused spurs (being existing or new) if The customer pays for it.

Now cleversod, sod off

[clever trev]

Well i think cleversod is right , it sounds like cutting corners to do a quick job . and i would not be happy with that way of fitting sockets, law or not.

[Toleman]

People want them they pay extra and they get them on their walls. They pay standard they get them in units. Never had a problem from customers. A lot of people don't want them cluttering their tiled walls.

Anyway this isn't about what you would have.

So neddyw, the answer to your questions are,

You can have them under units
No real risk of leaking
It is safe

[neddyw]

I'm starting to wish i'd never asked!!!!!!!

[clever trev]

Reading the pre posts is there not a set standard for a grade 4 fitter

[clever trev]

Also reading pre posts anybody can put a kitchen in a showroom at Magnet, there are no obstructions (ie) no pipes no sockets no nothing, plenty of room to just do as you like,( ie ) not the real thing and plenty of time to get things spot on.

[clever trev]

neddyw don't wish you had't asked the Q thats what the answer bank is for, you have asked a very good Q and you have shown up a flaw in todays ways of fitting a kitchen, the simple answer is that fitters are putting sockets under sinks to make it easy for them, the customer not knowing any better, as for standard and no standard fitting i don't think they will tell you that, they will just put it in to suit them and to get the job done quick so they can get their money, when they have got their money,you won't see them again whatever your problems

[Toleman]

No! i put the 3 massive displays in magnet as i am tghe best fitter for them. Also there was wires to run for the under cuboard lighting. The customer also is told about the sockets and shown them after the fit. They have to sign to say they are happy with the kitchen and the fitter has shown them the Isolation points for water and appliances. After 2 weeks of completion a rep of magnet/B&Q goes to the house to inspect and gives the customer a questionaire with questions and numbers 1-10 to tick. I am rated 4 with B&Q due to getting mainly tens back. Any problems due to it being our fault we have to pay for nd go beck (very very rarely). Problems with the product we are payed to go back. Each company has an 18 month fitting warentee and magnet has a 15 year product warentte too.

I will be honest with the clever 2.
I have been following up a bad magnet fitter for 6 months now and have been back to sum awful fits but we put them right and have never had complaints from customers.

I think the clever 2 have some bad experiences with fitters but not all fitters are the same.

You think of a fitter (bathroom, kitchen, window e.c.t) as a bodger but i do a lot of private fits and had a very good apprenticeship as a joiner,

If it wasn't right the timber was thrown at you.