Meat, Veg and Morals

[Lonnie]

I know that someone will call the men in white coats after this post, but someones got to stick up for the Vegetables, (I eat both).

There are a lot of posts about cruelty to animals, and quite right, but how about the Vegetables?.

Plants do everything we do, but on a different time scale.

When you pull a plant from the ground, or eat eg, a raw Carrot, how do you know your not hurting it?, a tree will shed branches to conserve energy, but its the tree itself that does it, when you prune it yourself, thats artificially doing it, and as the tree isn't ready, it can't talk, but again. are you causing it pain?.

Cabbage, left alone, in one season, it will experience, youth, middle age, old age, and death, but we pluck it from the ground, and while still alive, plonk it into boiling water, but we can't hear it scream, does it?.

Those are just some examples, and i'm not putting my address to this post.

[RATTER15]

"Plants do everything we do, but on a different time scale." !!!

When did you last see a cabbage get up and go to work, service the car, mow the lawn etc?
just keep that cucumber away from your Mrs!!!

lol

[wildwood]

To be able to feel pain an organism needs a brain.

I don't feel like being uncivil today.

I'll leave it at that.

[Lonnie]

Hi RATTER, yes, I knew someone would come up with something like this, lets rephrase then, Natural, they mate, hunt, battle, kill, colonise, etc.

[Thunderbird+]

I think I've just seen mr Pototo head driving a train to southend on sea, I just hope he can find the breakes! but if he's in a different time scale them theres a good chance the train will be on time. ;�)

[lankeela]

If thats all you've got to worry about, then you are very lucky.

Anyway what about the nettles that get their own back on us for the rest of plantlife?

[heathfield]

You're dead right, Lonnie. Everyone should read 'The Secret Life of Plants' by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird.
Using scientific methods, they demonstrated how plants 'feel fear, they help each other, they try to communicate, they like music, and, plants can read your mind.'
This last was demomonstrated by one of the top US experts on lie-detectors. He connected one to a plant, and cut a leaf with a pair of scissors. The lie-detector 'reacted violently'. Next, he simply apprached the plant with the intention of making another cut. The lie-detector again reacted before he reached the plant. Oooer!
Some plants were even trained to operate a watering system by themselves.

So - apologise to your vegetables before cutting them up!

[Lonnie]

Thanks for the backing heathfield, I haven't read that book yet, but i'll be placing an order for it.

infundibulum, love those lyrics, Giant Hogweed hmm, think i'll send some to the editor as a goodwill gesture.

[Lonnie]

wildwood,
Be as uncivil as you like, I can take it, plants are a totally alien species to us, how do you know the don't have brains?.