if you were lying in wet grass and it was pouring down with rain....

[stokemaveric]

and you were zapped with 50,000 volts from a tazer gun wouldnt your trigger finger just twitch a little?? thus sending a bullet through your head...the investigation into raul moats death is underway folks......

[boxtops]

That's why we understood they wouldn't be using the tazer....

[boxtops]

PS the BBC news has just reported that the post mortem has revealed NO tazer marks on Moat's body

[sherrardk]

Well - if you were lying in wet grass and it was pouring down with rain (and you had shoot three people and been on the run for 6 days and you had hoardes of police dancing to your tune) and you were zapped with 50,000 volts from a tazer gun whilst holding a gun to your head I would have thought - tough broccoli, what did Moat think was going to happen to him?

[stokemaveric]

im not defending his actions sherrard...tazers were fired at him...50,000 volts and electricity DO NOT MIX....

[daffy654]

Don't you mean 50,000 volts of electricity and water don't mix?

[sherrardk]

Hi Stoke - not saying you are defending his actions, I am just amazed that anyone thought this was going to end with Moat still alive.

[20SilkCut]

He really did'nt sound like the kind of man who would let himself be captured, so made plans for the worst case scenario. I guess he felt he had nothing to lose at that stage - its quite sad. :-(

[stokemaveric]

sorry im not defending him in the slightest you are right 20silkcut it is all sad...and yes i agree sherrards he was in a no win situation.....

[dabees]

The tazer shock may have been the cause of death. The most important thing I learned as an Electrician was...When working on live installations, check that the power is off, double check with a test meter, then approach the supposed live cable with the back of your hand.

If the cable is still live your hand won't grab it, muscles close when in contact with electricity.


If his finger was on the trigger when hit, he'd have automatically pulled the trigger. Not suicide, but murder.

[4getmenot]

I'm imagining thats how flies feel on my buge zapper racket, it bloody hurts. I'm sure its faulty.

[sherrardk]

Sorry dabees but if he hadn't been lying in wet grass with a gun pointing at his head it wouldn't have happened. Why all this sympathy for this bloke - what about the man he killed and the two othe people he shot?

[daffy654]

And the 9 year old child he was imprisoned for beating sherrard!

[dabees]

It matters not to me, but it will to the IPCC.

[ELVIS68]

Here`s what really happened...........

The bloke holding the Tazer gun was called Dave, the negotiator was talking to Moat about there being no more food available, Moat wasn`t happy about this and angrily ordered a bar of chocolate, the negotiator, unsure what to do next looked at Dave and saw he was eating a kit kat, he then said to Dave.."Let him have it"....the rest as they say is barely history

[dothawkes31]

Are you sure it was a kit-kat? I heard it was a Mars.

[Dris]

Agree with dabees principle which in principal has been ignored all night .

[CuteToni]

murder dabees? Get a grip. The man murdered an innocent man and attempted to murder two others. I dont believe for one second the police 'murdered' him.

[ELVIS68]

Here`s Tazer Dave in action

[ELVIS68]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq-vyFikh_E

[dabees]

I don't make the law Toni. Just check it before you shout about it.