Nobody will be surprised when I say that I sincerely hope Andy is right.
Provided the electorate is given correct information and is not misinformed and fed with hysterical claptrap, I will accept the result and move on if they are foolish enough to vote to remain. There will not be (nor should there be) another referendum for at least ten years (provided there are no dramatic constitutional changes proposed during in that time). My biggest gripe (even bigger than anything the EU has foisted upon the UK) is that we have moved from being a member of a trading bloc of around ten nations with similar economies and are being dragged into a Federal Union of 28 (and counting) widely disparate nations without the UK electorate being consulted. Slice by slice our sovereignty has been eroded, each step "only a little bit different" to what went before "so no big deal". Of course the big deal is the differneces thathave occurred over the past 40 years and if they had been imposed in one lump the electorate would be furious.
“…and the 27 constituent countries aren't able to work together properly or effectively as a result”
It’s 28 actually, jim. Don’t forget little Croatia who ran away to join the circus in 2013. A Freudian Slip, perhaps :-)
However, no matter. Once it got beyond a dozen or so, and particularly when nations with such diverse economies were included they never would be able to work together properly or effectively. When the solid stuff hits the air conditioning it’s every man (nation) for himself. This has been demonstrated on more than one occasion, most recently with the migrant crisis. The EU spends its time firefighting these crises, usually ineffectively and with just one aim – to preserve the Union at all costs regardless of the outcome and usually regardless of whether the solution addresses the problem or not.
“If we stay in then we should campaign for a fully integrated Europe. No nations (could have states, 1 tax regime, one min wage, one set of benefits, no skewed contributions…”
Be careful of what you wish for, youngmaf. The average GDP per head of the EU as a whole is around $37,500 (plus or minus a fraction). Should full fiscal integration along the lines you wish for be fulfilled the GDP for the EU as a whole will barely change (in fact if current forecasts can be relied upon it will probably drop as much of the EU is in decline). Of course the people of Bulgaria (GDP per head around $18,300), Romania ($20,500) and Greece ($26,700) will be more than pleased to see their country’s per capita GDP double. In fact anyone in the 18 nations where the GDP per head is less than the average will be delighted. However, people in the UK ($40,800), Germany ($46,900) the Netherlands ($48,300) and Ireland ($51,100) may not be too chuffed. I shudder to think what the half a million poor souls in Luxembourg ($93,200) will think.
The nations of the EU are too disparate for such a scheme to work without widespread hardship. That is why the euro does not work and that is why full fiscal union will not work. Before they cast their votes the people of the UK need to be told that such a plan involves widespread redistribution of (their) wealth. They only need to sit down and do the sums.