This Is The Place....

[10ClarionSt]

....Manchester. I'll be in Albert Square tonight for the remembrance. I was born just a quarter of a mile from the M.E.N. on Clarion St. The part of the street that we lived on is still there. Check it out on Google earth. My family lived in Ancoats for generations; Ancoats is a suburb that borders the City Centre, so I'm more of a Mancunian than United and City put together! Andy Burnham gave his praises for the emergency services last year but a spare a thought for the fire service, who did not attend and were told they weren't needed. There is a large fire station just a few hundred yards from the M.E.N., on Thompson Street, where all the crews were waiting, frustrated, to be called for their services. I also understand that some members of the SAS were also waiting at that station. I'm sure most people in this area can relate to that night, and will know someone who was involved in some way. It was immediately obvious to me that there were lots of injuries because the news reports were only showing lines of ambulances heading towards the Arena. I will be in Albert Square, Manchester tonight, along with many others, to remember, because This Is The Place.

[Sqad]

I certainly was a dreadful event in Manchester on that night, deaths and life changing injuries to many people.
However, I am never sure about remembrances of tragic events, deaths of loved one's even animals as to me it is a very personal thing not one for mass gatherings or media exploitation (if that is the right word). Life goes on, tragedies in themselves are not necessarily the problem, the problem is how one deals with them.
However Clarion, my feelings, thankfully are in the minority, so have a good time tonight.

[waterboatman]

I agree with you sqad. But different people grieve in different ways. It's a personal thing.

[Sqad]

Exactly WBM.

[10ClarionSt]

Thanks Squad. I understand what you say. It's preferences, isn't it? Actually, having said I'll be there, (was planning to be), I might be needed at my daughters', who had our 7th grandchild on Sunday, so I'll have to see what develops, but I'll be in Albert Square if I can.

[waterboatman]

Just my opinion clarion, I think your daughter should take priority. You can still have it in your mind.

As I say, just my opinion.

[Islay]

I believe that remebering events should be a personal experience - to shout about it in this way suggest a 'look at me, how good am I' post.

[10ClarionSt]

Well go and tell that to all the media as well, Islay. It's all over the news today. Don't forget, that area is my birthplace, as I said in my OP. Why should I not comment about what I intend to do? Just to stop you moaning?

[Islay]

lol OK

[anneasquith]

Bit harsh , it's clarion decision what he does tonight .

[naomi24]

I don’t understand the ‘place of my birth’ kind of thinking. As a Londoner born and bred, if I thought like that I’d be making several pilgrimages every year. The Manchester atrocity, like every other atrocity committed by these madmen, is a blight on the entire planet and no one loss of life to this foul philosophy is any less appalling or any more important than another.

[fraser]

Also remember Lee rigby who was killed five years ago today rip, hope tonight helps the survivors and victim's families rip

[jambutty]

I agree with Islay.

[Mamyalynne]

There'll be a great sense of togetherness whether attending like yourself or watching and taking part in thought.x

[10ClarionSt]

Naomi, I still live quite near to there, only 5 miles away. I regularly travel past that street where I was born, on my way to Manchester. If you don't understand "the place of my birth" kind of thinking, perhaps you have no pride in it, for some reason? With regard to other events, my wife and myself were one of the first people into Anfield with a floral tribute on the Monday after the tragedy. We traveled from Manchester just for that. Sometimes other things have a big effect. But one thing I've learned about this site over the years is that it has it's fair share of sanctimonious, arrogant users.

[Jackdaw33]

//But one thing I've learned about this site over the years is that it has its fair share of sanctimonious, arrogant users.\\

And so say all of us!

[naomi24]

10ClarionSt, sanctimonious means self-righteous. Think about that before you blow your self-righteous trumpet again. I find this 'me, me, me' ownership of tragedy quite sickening.

[hereIam]

'sanctimonius', 'arrogant' Reminds me of YOU 10C.

[10ClarionSt]

Nah. T'aint me, that. I'm a lot nearer to this particular tragedy than you Naomi.