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A Statement From No10..............
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...and bearing mind Spare Eds OP earlier in the week, I hope this is in the right category.
Understand this: I am not a Covid denyer: I don't believe in Covid Conspiracy: I have never said anything detremental about the NHS or the staff and I have certainly never attempted to trivialise the death of anyone during this pandemic. Because I don't believe lots of things about this from the govt, doesn't warrant sanctimonious, self-righteous people spouting innaccuracies about me and being vindictive towards me.
Boris Johnsons' apology was a publicity stunt to hide his bungling of this crisis, but he was correct with one thing; the deaths of all those people from Covid-19 were his fault, not because he should have acted sooner, but because he acted wrongly.
Instead of closing businesses, keeping people off work and closing schools, the govt should have allowed everyone to carry on but with the guidelines that ensued anyway. Lockdowns haven't worked. Masks haven't worked. How can anyone look at the figures and say they have worked? During the first lockdown, masks weren't compulsory and the death rate dropped to near single figures, at a time when there was a mini heat wave and people would be out and about more than at present.
The money wasted on business covid grants, laying people off and large numbers of laptops for schools, should have gone straight into the NHS to provide the best of the best, instead of relying on people like Capt Tom and lots of other admirable people to raise money.
On the BBC 6 O'Clock News last Thursday Feb 4th (can't find a link), there was a report about a special Covid Fraud police unit that is actively hunting down fraudulent business grants. The govt has made £40bn available for this, of which half has been fraudulently claimed. £20bn, people. 20bn. The cameras were present at one raid but the reporter showed how easy it is to get the money with the help of on-line fraudsters and the lack of any checks when granting the money.
If this govt had taken the right and proper action from the outset, that money, and more besides, should have gone to the NHS and there would not have been as many deaths. I am allowed to say that, just as much as you are allowed to say there would have been more deaths. But the only things the govt has done are telling everyone to keep away from each other, wash you hands and face and wear a mask. To protect the NHS. Not you. The main reason for protecting the NHS is that it's going to be sold off or contracted out.
Hands, face space. Well, it now transpires that there has been a large increase in skin complaints like eczema and dermatitis due to excess use of sanitizers. This whole thing begats other things. But there is still an air of "The Emperors' New Clothes" about this whole thing.
Is the vaccine working? Is SD working? Masks? Sanitizers? I say no. The figures are wrong anyway because the daily figure starts with: "From any cause". That in itself is an insult to those who have not died from Covid because they are being used to prolong this lockdown.
What about this? The pandemic will recede, only when the virus has killed the weakest and most vulnerable people. It has already done that, according to the figures, but based on the way they are presented, I would say the death figure is only half of what they say. Some people want to believe everything they are being told because the govt and "the science" has frightened everyone to death.
SKS said in a recent PPB that he would be asking searching questions of this govt, but so far in the pandemic, he has asked the wrong questions and let the govt off lightly instead of looking for a way to deal with this which wouldn't damage the country to the extent that it has. Thank you for getting this far! I rest my case.
And I commend it to the house! :o)
Understand this: I am not a Covid denyer: I don't believe in Covid Conspiracy: I have never said anything detremental about the NHS or the staff and I have certainly never attempted to trivialise the death of anyone during this pandemic. Because I don't believe lots of things about this from the govt, doesn't warrant sanctimonious, self-righteous people spouting innaccuracies about me and being vindictive towards me.
Boris Johnsons' apology was a publicity stunt to hide his bungling of this crisis, but he was correct with one thing; the deaths of all those people from Covid-19 were his fault, not because he should have acted sooner, but because he acted wrongly.
Instead of closing businesses, keeping people off work and closing schools, the govt should have allowed everyone to carry on but with the guidelines that ensued anyway. Lockdowns haven't worked. Masks haven't worked. How can anyone look at the figures and say they have worked? During the first lockdown, masks weren't compulsory and the death rate dropped to near single figures, at a time when there was a mini heat wave and people would be out and about more than at present.
The money wasted on business covid grants, laying people off and large numbers of laptops for schools, should have gone straight into the NHS to provide the best of the best, instead of relying on people like Capt Tom and lots of other admirable people to raise money.
On the BBC 6 O'Clock News last Thursday Feb 4th (can't find a link), there was a report about a special Covid Fraud police unit that is actively hunting down fraudulent business grants. The govt has made £40bn available for this, of which half has been fraudulently claimed. £20bn, people. 20bn. The cameras were present at one raid but the reporter showed how easy it is to get the money with the help of on-line fraudsters and the lack of any checks when granting the money.
If this govt had taken the right and proper action from the outset, that money, and more besides, should have gone to the NHS and there would not have been as many deaths. I am allowed to say that, just as much as you are allowed to say there would have been more deaths. But the only things the govt has done are telling everyone to keep away from each other, wash you hands and face and wear a mask. To protect the NHS. Not you. The main reason for protecting the NHS is that it's going to be sold off or contracted out.
Hands, face space. Well, it now transpires that there has been a large increase in skin complaints like eczema and dermatitis due to excess use of sanitizers. This whole thing begats other things. But there is still an air of "The Emperors' New Clothes" about this whole thing.
Is the vaccine working? Is SD working? Masks? Sanitizers? I say no. The figures are wrong anyway because the daily figure starts with: "From any cause". That in itself is an insult to those who have not died from Covid because they are being used to prolong this lockdown.
What about this? The pandemic will recede, only when the virus has killed the weakest and most vulnerable people. It has already done that, according to the figures, but based on the way they are presented, I would say the death figure is only half of what they say. Some people want to believe everything they are being told because the govt and "the science" has frightened everyone to death.
SKS said in a recent PPB that he would be asking searching questions of this govt, but so far in the pandemic, he has asked the wrong questions and let the govt off lightly instead of looking for a way to deal with this which wouldn't damage the country to the extent that it has. Thank you for getting this far! I rest my case.
And I commend it to the house! :o)
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//Is the vaccine working? Is SD working? Masks? Sanitizers? I say no. The figures are wrong anyway because the daily figure starts with: "From any cause". //
You dont get it do you. Okay may be 106000 not 116000 deaths as some had covid but might of survived covid if they werent hit by meteorite or had pneumonia too, but you've ignored the ones where covid was missed as there was no test done. So maybe 116000.
You dont get it do you. Okay may be 106000 not 116000 deaths as some had covid but might of survived covid if they werent hit by meteorite or had pneumonia too, but you've ignored the ones where covid was missed as there was no test done. So maybe 116000.
In defence of Boris, no PM has ever had to deal with the like of this.
Every move he makes is accompanied by a chorus of pro and anti advisors, all vying for his attention, but he is the man in the driving seat and has to make the decisions.
Then with the wonderful gift of hindsight, his critics berate him for getting it wrong.
Could anybody do better? Certainly not SKS!
Keep calm and carry on!
Every move he makes is accompanied by a chorus of pro and anti advisors, all vying for his attention, but he is the man in the driving seat and has to make the decisions.
Then with the wonderful gift of hindsight, his critics berate him for getting it wrong.
Could anybody do better? Certainly not SKS!
Keep calm and carry on!
We will never know if anyone else could have done it better, Theland. Would others have made such a mess of it? Another question to which the answer is "We'll never know."
The government are to be highly commended for getting the vaccine out there in vast quantities. But if they are to accept the plaudits for doing so, they also have to accept the criticism from some quarters for their dithering and delaying. In my most humble and honest opinion, of course.
The government are to be highly commended for getting the vaccine out there in vast quantities. But if they are to accept the plaudits for doing so, they also have to accept the criticism from some quarters for their dithering and delaying. In my most humble and honest opinion, of course.
Normally I don't usually answer posts of more than two or perhaps three paragraphs as I take the view that anything worth reading can be said quite concisely, but for you I make an exception.
Lockdowns were meant to hold and reduce infection rates and hospital admissions and they did just that.....they worked.
Skin complications of hands face and sanitize...yeah! right.....negligible in the bigger picture of over a thousand deaths a day due mainly to Covid.
As long as I can remember, someone ,somewhere have been bleating about the underfunded NHS.
The Government have been slow in reacting to a world wide killer virus which will be contained, but not in 2021
In my opinion, the public have not been scared enough by the Government or the medical profession of this life changing killer virus. Tell them too much and they are labelled as scaremongering, tell the too little and they are hiding the truth.
The response of the British public has been inadequate and disappointing.
I commend this to my learned friend:
You may have a point about the daily death rates not due solely to Covid, but one cannot deny the direction of Covid deaths being upwards.
The oldest and weakest are no longer the target for the virus, particularly the new variant so we are all at risk.
Lockdowns were meant to hold and reduce infection rates and hospital admissions and they did just that.....they worked.
Skin complications of hands face and sanitize...yeah! right.....negligible in the bigger picture of over a thousand deaths a day due mainly to Covid.
As long as I can remember, someone ,somewhere have been bleating about the underfunded NHS.
The Government have been slow in reacting to a world wide killer virus which will be contained, but not in 2021
In my opinion, the public have not been scared enough by the Government or the medical profession of this life changing killer virus. Tell them too much and they are labelled as scaremongering, tell the too little and they are hiding the truth.
The response of the British public has been inadequate and disappointing.
I commend this to my learned friend:
You may have a point about the daily death rates not due solely to Covid, but one cannot deny the direction of Covid deaths being upwards.
The oldest and weakest are no longer the target for the virus, particularly the new variant so we are all at risk.
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