Its Only Really Conjecture At The Moment But What If This Came To Pass?

[youngmafbog]

Raynor as leader of the Labour Party. And its not even April 1st.

Joking aside it would be terrible for the country. We need a strong opposition not some loudmouthed not particularly bright pe4rson. Surely Labour have some better women candidates?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9744481/Allies-Angela-Rayner-want-leadership-bid-Labour-loses-Batley.html

[andy-hughes]

I wouldn't bet on Labour having better candidates of either gender!!

Or should that - in our woke times - be 'any gender'!!

[ichkeria]

It ought to dawn on Labour that having a leadership contest now would be insane

[ToraToraTora]

GOAS? PMSL! Rodders ain't up to much but He's a genius compared to that silly mare!

[ToraToraTora]

here she is in action:

[ichkeria]

I actually think Angela Rayner is very good.
A lot better then her flatmate.

But Labour’s problems go far beyond the identity of the leader.
Sadly it happens when a party is struggling: common sense goes out of the window. The Tories brought in William Hague too soon, then Iain Duncan-Smith far too even sooner :-)
And finally gave up and summoned Michael “something of the night” Howard from the crypt …

[Jackdaw33]

Why draw the line at Rayner? Why not go the whole hog and roll out the Abacus? Labour, the gift that just can't stop giving!

[youngmafbog]

//I actually think Angela Rayner is very good.//

Have you been watching the same person I have? Just watch the video posted, she was taken to the cleaners by a 'nobody' how would she cope at PMQ's?

Raynor simply doesnt have the intelligence to do the job.

[ToraToraTora]

...she was eaten alive by Mordaunt, even had to put her mask on at one point to hide her embarrassment!

[ichkeria]

I suspect that whatever happens in the by-election the challenge won’t happen.
There’s a lot of malicious briefing going on
That in itself says a lot

[ToraToraTora]

JD 13:26, what about an Abacus/Lammy joint dream team?

[Jackdaw33]

Too much to hope for.

[Canary42]

Anyone would be better than Bungling Boris and his Brainless Bimbo who rule us now.

As I've said before, where are the Political Giants of yesteryear? People with guts, determination, drive, intelligence and Political Understanding, the likes of Atlee, Bevan, Churchill, Thatcher. Neither Party appears to have anyone remotely approaching such status.

[ToraToraTora]

gawd I never thought I'd hear canary praising TGL, I need a lie down!

[dannyk13]

Starmer has stated that, even Labour lose the Batley by-election, he will not stand down.

[ichkeria]

That wouldn’t stop a challenge tho.

[Jackdaw33]

That choice is really not his to make. Under their rules, if 20% of MPs call for an election, in this case 40, it is automatically triggered. Starmer would automatically go on the ballot paper but so also could any other MP who receives the required backing.

[rowanwitch]

When we had great leaders we had grammar schools, we had a population that understood rights come with responsibilities, and politicians came to the role later after a spell in the real world, industry, the for especially, even the civil service. Being a career politician is not a forge to temper anyone with greatness, to grow you need your feet on the ground.

As far as MT was concerned my best guide to her came from my true red mother in law who lived in East Finchley. She met her on a number of occasions and liked her a lot, she made time for people in her constituency, was thoughtful and respectful of her adversaries.

[Deskdiary]

Canary is correct, unusually it us to be said, in so far as we have no great statesmen (persons ?) any more, but to suggest “anyone” would be better than Boris is way wide of the mark.

Angel Rayner is a minnow - the way she was destroyed by Mordaunt was hilarious.

[tommy39]

careful,we could get nandy

[youngmafbog]

At least Nandys fairly attractive.

Canary does raise a good point. Where are todays version of the old greats (Of all parties).